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February 6, 2005

Here is another list of used projectors for sale. As always, all prices are in US dollars. If you want off this list, please shoot me back a quick email and I'll take you off right away.

I’ve got lots of new items on this list, info on the Lumagen HDP processors, of which I have stock now, and CES news.

Note that all projectors that have wireless remote capability now come with the new style One For All 8 in 1 universal remote control. This replaces the older style 5 in 1 universal remote that I was shipping  in the past. Note that the NEC projectors will still come with the original NEC set up remote, mandatory for converging and setting up the unit.  

In early January I went to the CES show, the first time in 10 years. Frankly, there was just too much to see to even try to recap here. Let’s just say that before I went down, I figured I had about 2 good years of CRT sales left, with  another r8-10 of servicing. Now that I’ve come back and seen what a lot of manufacturers are calling ‘high end’, I figure I have another 4-5 years left of sales, and 15 or so in service.

Digitals simply aren’t there yet. Lack of blacks, rainbows on single chip DLP’s, and general lack of serviceability make spending thousands on a digital set a complete waste of money (in my opinion). What some manufacturers passed off as ‘high end’ images  would be completely unacceptable to anyone that has seen a  good, heck, even a mediocre CRT in action.. : )

I’ve got over 150 sets in stock right now. With the amount of emails that are coming in, it’s usually better to email me directly with an inquiry, as sets seem to be sold as soon as they’ve been test run. With multiples of virtually every model in stock, I always have backup if that one set is gone. I’m listing virtually everything here that I have in stock. Many sets have the option of being purchased with good used tubes,  or of course I can install new or rebuilt tubes. 

Onto the list!

1 - GE Imager/Panasonic PT-101Y projector.  This is a good entry level projector that will take a video or S-signal.  600 lumens from 7” tubes, this is a low hour set.  Analog convergence, small and quiet, with only one fan in it.  I’ve sold lots of these, this is the last unit that I have. Simple to set up,  reliable, a good unit for the kids to play video games on.
$400.00

4 - Zenith PRO 851’s. Sports bars, take note! These are video only convection cooled sets that are superb for smoking environment sports bars, or even if they’re not smoking.. : ) I’ve installed 100’s of these into sports bars over the years, and dozens more into home theaters. 600 lumens (750 if you believe the Runco specs), analog convergence, and modular. All have the new style  focus block installed, a common problem on the original units.  Very reliable, a great picture, also marketed under the Runco 750 model and the GE Imager, and the Knoll HT-3, and…. These were made for lots of companies. I’ve got two here in good shape, tubes  are excellent, and will last 8000 hours +. I’ve got about 6 more here that do need tubes.
$1500.00- fully re-tubed

4 - Sony 10XX series sets. I’ve got a few of these popular sets in again. 600 lumens from 7” Sony tubes, the same as used in the Electrohomes below.  32 Khz scan rate on the 1030’s, 36 Khz for the 1031’s. All of the tubes in these sets are in great shape.  The cases range from good to near mint. Very reliable, analog convergence that is easy to set up. These sets sing with a line doubler. Very small and quiet operation, I put lots of these into sports bars where they are run 12 hours a day. One 1031 is on ebay here.
Sony 1030- $500.00 (2 available)
Sony 1031- $550.00 (2 available)


1 -  Electrohome ECP 4000.  This is a good little set, with tubes in great shape. 80 Khz scan rate, dual RGB inputs, on screen menus. Very similar to the ECP 4100 below, but a little older. A low hour set based on the tubes, that’s why it’s the same price as the slightly higher hour tubes in the set below. The focus mod has been done, a common problem in these sets, (it’s a permanent repair). On eBay here.
$700.00

1 - Electrohome ECP 4100. These are great little 7” sets. 600 lumens out of 7” Sony tubes..  80 Khz scan rate let these lock onto past a line quadrupled signal. Digital convergence, on screen menus, modular construction.  Stock with two RGB inputs, switchable via remote controls, a video and S-video card is optional.  c/w a wireless remote. A small and quiet unit. I’ve sold lots of these in the past with excellent results.  Good condition tubes, you’ll get 8000 hours + out of these. On eBay here.
$700.00

1 - ECP 4500. Same as the above 4100, but with a bit newer chassis and 750 lumen tubes. All other specs are the same as the above 4100. Tubes are in the same shape, 8000 + hours out of them.
$750.00
Note that I’ve got ACON cameras available for the ECP series for $150.00 per camera and PC board. I’ve got about 6 tested units in stock. I’ve also got lots of RGB input boards and virtually every other part in stock for these.

3 - Barco Graphics  800. I received 10 of these, and a bunch flew out the door right away.  I’ve gone through the rest of them now.  One needed all new tubes, and is sold, but the others are low hour units (3600 to 6000, that’s low hours for BArco 800’s) The actual ‘on’ time of the tubes is a lot lower than even the 3600 hour count, as the tubes are in excellent shape. You’ll get 8500 hours + out of these.  . 92 Khz makes this set good for well past 1080p or line quadrupling. .   825 lumens out of 8” Sony tubes. With the low hour count, the ES focus tubes are still very sharp, and you can still see scanning lines at line doubling across the room.   Video, S-video and RGB inputs. Digital convergence, very easy to set up, I’ve sold 100’s of these over the years with very few issues. The cases on these units are extra nice as well. I’ve done all of the standard modifications to these to improve long term reliability.  On eBay here.
$800.00

I’ve also got one BG 800 here in good shape, but with light text wear on the blue tube only. I had a similar set listed on ebay recently. This set has higher chassis hours, but somewhat lighter text wear on the blue tube. The R and G are fine. I’ll sell this set as–is due to the blue tube, (I’ve done all of the other mods to it) for $500.00

3 - Sony 1270. Similar in specs and performance to the Barco G 800 above, the Sonys use the same tubes as the 800. The reliability is good on these sets, they are built like tanks. Video, S-video and RGB inputs, digital convergence, on screen menus. This set is in super condition with no visible wear on the tubes. You’ll get 9500 hours+ out of these tubes. On eBay here.
$1000.00

2 - Sony 1251. A bit newer than the Sony 1270 above, but with virtually identical specs, I’ve got two of these in good shape. Your choice to buy them with a case in good shape, or with a scratched case. Tubes will last 7000 hours or so, they’re in about the same shape as the 1272’s below.
$850.00 with a good case, $650.00 with a marked case, and missing the top overlay plastic.

3 - Sony 1272 similar to the Sony 1270 above, but about 4 years newer. 750 lumen tubes, and 21 point convergence instead of 9 point like the 1270 for better fine tuning of the convergence.  The catch with these sets is that the cases are marked and scratched, and two are missing the plastic inlay that covers the top of the projector. If you don’t care about looks, or are building it into a coffee table, this is a good way to go.  Cases do come up on eBay every once in a while as well. I guarantee the electronic condition of these sets like I do all other projectors, but no warranty on the cases. I will email pix to those that are interested to see what they are like. Tube condition of these sets is good, and they should all last about 7000-8000 hours. A bargain at $700.00 each.  If I find good cases for these, and I just might, please add $200.00 to the price.

Barco 701/701s/708 projectors. If you’re looking for a bright (1000 lumen) small and quiet projector that is easy to set up, this is it. These are very small units (approx 28” X 24” X 13”), and are currently also being made for Runco under the DTV 947 and similar models. Currently also under the Barco line as the Cine 7 model. These sets started with the Barco 701 projector that used 650 lumen Sony tubes. They then came out with the 701s that bumped the brightness up to 1000 lumens and used Toshiba tubes. Two models of each were released, the Vision that scanned to 36 Khz (good for line doubling and HDTV), and the Data model that scanned to 50Khz (good for up to line tripling). All models have video. S-video, RGB and COMPONENT inputs, digital convergence, on screen menus and are very easy to set up. I’ve got 4 units in stock right now. Three are ready to go, the other one is waiting for parts.

2 - Barco Vision 701s. Higher lumens, tubes in good shape. Slight 16:9 wear pattern but very light, you won’t see if if you’re using  a 16:9 aspect ratio. On eBay here.
$1500.00

1 - Barco Data 708. The latest incarnation prior to the Cine 7 series, this set has all new VDC tubes installed with 100 hours of conditioning put on the set and tubes. 50 Khz scan rate, 1000 lumens, the case is in great shape. You’ll get 10,000 hours out of this set. On eBay here.
$2500.00

Zenith PRO 900/ Runco DTV 852
I’ve got three of these sets in again, after not having any for a while. The two models are the same, but Runco painted the case black and added an internal line doubler, great for someone wanting an all in one set without the hassles of dealing with the external cables and switchers associated with a line doubler or scaler. Both versions of the sets have 7” tubes with 800 lumens, video, S-video and RGB inputs (the video and S-video inputs are line doubled in the Runco), and a scan rate to 50 Khz, so you can add HDTV via the RGB inputs down the road. I’ve recently seen a Zenith Pro 900 hooked to a  DVDO HD scaler, and the picture was stunning on an 84” wide screen. Very quiet. The Runco unit has a near mint case and comes with the original box, remote and ceiling bracket. The Zenith versions are white, are a bit scratched, but can be painted to suit, and the scratches will disappear. All sets have new G and B tubes, the red is original and in great shape. The Runco is here.
$2100.00

2 - Zenith PRO 900 versions (no line doubler)               
$1700.00 each

I’ve got a slew of NEC PG projectors listed below. Some are ready to go, some need tubes. I’ve got some PG/PG+ tubes at VDC right now that have smashed safety glass, but are in good shape otherwise, with only a hint of wear on them. Those will be back in 10 days or so.  I’m listing the condition of the sets, with a ‘good used tube’ price, along with a G and B new tube price.
NEC  PG series projector. A step up from the electrostatic  focusing sets listed above, this is an EM focus sets that scan to 60 Khz for the 6 Pg, 90 Khz for the 9 PG. 800 lumens from 7 1/2" tubes. The 6 PG sets are equipped with an RGB input, the 9 Pg’s with a video and S-video jack as well as the RGB input. Many of you know that NEC's are my personal favourite projector for fleshtones. c/w wireless remote. Perfect for use with a computer or a line doubler/ tripler.  
1 - 6 PG needs G and B tubes, either used or new.  
$1200.00 in good used condition, $1600.00 with new G and B tubes.

1 - 9 PG near mint shape, good to go as is c/w point convergence board
$1600.00

3 - NEC 9 PG +. The ‘+’ sets added astigmatism control to the set, which gives better side and corner focus over the plain PG series. The picture and specs are otherwise the same.
c/w good used original tubes
$1700.00
c/w new G and B tubes
$1900.00
1 only with 3300 original hours, light G and B wear
$1300.00

6 - NEC PG Xtra projectors. One slight step down from the NEC XG series and a step up from the PG + series, these sets put out 1000 lumens. A small chassis with RGB inputs (optional video and S-video inputs are also available on the 9 PG Xtra),  these sets are best suited for use with a line doubler or tripler.  I’ve got about 12 of these sets in stock. All need two tubes installed, and a couple need all three. I’ll probably part out the ones that need three tubes, but that still leaves 8 available sets. You’ll get 10,000 hours + out of sets with new G and B tubes, the green tubes are installed in two of these, with the blues being here within the week. These sets give a very punchy picture with super nice fleshtones. 2 each 6 Pg Xtra and 9 PG Xtras- need two tubes each.
6 Pg Xtra with good used tubes
$1600.00
9 PG Xtra with good used tubes
$2000.00
1 - 6 Pg Xtra- new G and B tubes, no wear on the red On eBay here.
$2400.00
1 - 9 PG Xtra new G and B tubes, no wear on the red. On eBay here.
$2800.00

I’ve put together a couple of Ampro 3300 and 3600 sets that are currently on test run. These came in with text wear on more than one tube, but since I’ve re-tubed so many Barco sets recently, I’ve got some good used tubes with light wear to put into these sets. These 3300’s and 3600’s are as good a performer as any other 8” 1200 lumen EM focus set. 100Khz scan rate, 1200 lumens,, wired remote for digital convergence. Easier to set up than an NEC XG series, the manuals are well written. I’ve now got lots of backup parts for  the Ampro sets, and have run each of these for 100 hours to ensure long term reliability. RGB input only on these sets.  The cases do have some marks and scratches on them. The 3600 is a bit newer than the 3300, the 3300 has very slightly better tubes than the 3600, but you’ll get 7000 hours + out of each of these sets.  A blowout price at $1500.00 each.

I’ve gone through a number of my Barco 808 projectors, and here’s what I have:
4 - Barco Data 808s
1 - Barco Data 808
2 - Barco Graphics 808
3 - Barco Graphics 808s


As mentioned in my “CRT projector tome”, the basic performance of the BD 808, BD 808s and BG 808 are about the same, as all use 8” MEC tubes. The BG 808s uses non rebuildable Sony tubes, so unless these BG 808s sets come in with very good condition tubes, I scrap the sets. Right now, the Sony tubes for the BG 808s sets are $1300.00 each, but rumor has it that VDC will be rebuilding these sometime in 2005. All of these sets are 8” EM focus sets, 1200 lumens, have digital convergence, on screen menus, wireless remotes, and are very easy to set up.  I do the power supply modifications, and I’ve had great success shipping these all over the world. 75 Khz scan rate out of the Data models, 110 Khz out of the Graphics ones. The ‘s’ models come with the IRIS auto convergence camera, along with a 480p compatible component input.

1 - Barco Data 808 new G and B tubes. Great shape, including the case.
$2900.00
3 - low hour Barco Data 808s, light green wear, great chassis. On eBay here.
$2300.00
Note that I’ll replace the green tube with a new one for an extra $600.00
1 - Barco Graphics 808 new G and B tubes. On eBay here.
$3200.00
1 - Barco Graphics 808. Light G and B wear, good for 7000+ hours
$2500.00
2 - Barco Graphics 808s. Light G and B  wear. Useable for 6000+ hours.
$2000.00

1 - Barco 1208/2.  These sets are a step up  from the 808 spec-wise, and have the astigmatism controls built into the software that the 808 models do not.  135 Khz scan rate, 1200 lumens from 8” tubes. One has low chassis hours, and has very light green wear. The R and B tubes are in great shape. A lowered price at $2300.00 I’ll change the green tube out for a new one for $600.00 more.  On eBay here.

2 - Barco 1208/2. Same as above, but with new G and B tubes. c/w IRIS option.
$3200.00

1 - Electrohome Marquee 8000. This set is similar to the Barco g 808 above, but with 1000 lumens from 8” EM focusing tubes. Very similar in set up to the Barcos in general, these sets are quiet. Not as long as the Barcos in size, they are about  3” taller than the Barco series. Very modular in construction, and super reliable. This set has very low hour tubes, and thy are in great shape. I don’t get Marquee 8000’s in with good original tubes too often, so this set is a great deal. On eBay here.
$2000.00

1 - Marquee 8110.  This set  is similar to the Barco 808 above. 110 Khz scan rate,  This set has a new G and B tube installed, so you’ll get 10,000 hours + out of this set.  It has video, S-video and RGB  inputs. 1200 lumens  from 8” MEC tubes, you’ll get 8000 hours +  out of them. Very easy set up, similar to the Barco. A little taller but less long than the Barco, the performance is the same.  I’ve got lots more Marquees in stock, I’ve ordered tubes for the rest. The anamorphic squeeze  mod and the power supply mods are done, as they are to all of the Marquees that I sell.  
$3000.00 (I’ve got 6 other 8110’s in stock that are waiting for tubes at the same price)

1 - Marquee 8500. In transit to me, this tube has new G and B tubes, and I’m selling it for a customer that bought it about 150 hours ago. Full warranty on the tubes in the set (1 year). The 8500 has the astig controls that the 800 and 8110 do not include, for slightly better corner focus. I do all of the mods required to make the Marquees more versatile and reliable. I’ve sold lots of these in the past with great results.
$3500.00

NEC XG projectors.  Once again I have a number of XG projectors in stock, and a couple more to come in shortly. All NEC XG projectors are true 1200 lumen 8” EM focus sets. Digital convergence, on screen menus, video, S-video and RGB inputs are stock, the component option is available on the NEC XG 852 models. 100 point convergence allows for super accurate convergence. The NEC has more control over the picture than other 8” sets, making a full set up a bit daunting, but when it’s complete, you’ll find it’s well worth the effort. Smaller than most competing 8” sets, they’ve been very reliable, and I’ve sold lots. Note to overseas customers on 220 volts. The basic XG’s are 110V only, but I’ve found some hard to find 220V supplies that I’ll install for an extra $100.00. (Sorry, I can’t sell these separately) Here are the details:

1 - XG 75. I have not gone through this set fully, but it has very light G and B wear on the tubes, the red is in good shape.  The performance of the XG 75 is the same as the higher end non LC sets, no matter what the specs say. Digital convergence, on screen menus, video, S-video and RGB inputs.  100 points of convergence per color, very accurate color reproduction. I’ll test run this set this week, but the price will be
$2200.00

1 - NEC XG 110.  Similar to the above units, these models do not have component input, but scan to 110 Khz. One of these sets belongs to a customer of mine, 1635 hours only on the chassis, good for another 8500 hours. Very light G wear, none on the R and B. Case in minty shape, c/w original manual, wireless remote and road case.  On eBay here.
$2800.00

1 - NEC XG 110LC
Good physical shape, some minor scrapes and scratches, but nothing serious. I’ve fired one up very quickly, and need to completely test run it, but the one I tested has only 2100 chassis hours on it, and about 1900 tube hours. The hour meter has NOT been reset, the tubes are in great shape.  There is a tiny bit of 4:3 wear on the green tube only as can be expected for 1900 hours of use. I’ll change out the green tube for an extra $600.00 if desired. On eBay here.
$3000.00

1 - NEC XG 135. New G and B tubes, the flagship of the non LC NEC XG line. Case in good shape, 135 Khz scan rate. Same specs as the above sets otherwise. On eBay here.
$3500.00

1 - Electrohome Marquee 9000LC. I have one more of these sets in from the same place that I got the previous ones from. 1200 lumens from 9" EM focus tubes,  110 Khz scan rate, video. S-video and RGB inputs. I’ve done the standard mods to the set, but have also upgraded the video chain to newer revision video input and output boards, so for all intents and purposes, this set is now a 9500LC.  Excellent resolutions, an easy and comprehensive set up with very intuitive menus. A new green tube has been installed, these tubes will last at least10,000 hours. c/w wireless remote.  On eBay here.
$7000.00

3 - Ampro 4600’s.
I’ve got one of these on my ceiling right now, and have had it up for about 6 weeks. I need to order a new green tube for mine, it’s got some wear on it. The blue is brand new. The red is original with no wear. These are state of the art 9” sets, and cost $58K back in 1996-1998. Full 9” tubes, liquid coupled. 110 Khz scan rate. A lot of adjustments on the convergence and picture parameters, this set is on par with the Marquee 9500LC, Barco 1209s, and apparently the Sony G 90. I think I’m keeping my set on my ceiling, but I have two others that I am about to look at. Original shipping boxes, manuals, ceiling brackets and remotes with both. Very light G and B wear, there should be none on the red. Very useable as is, there’s no need to re-tube these, as the 9” tubes wear more slowly than their 8” counterparts. I will put these two sets through their paces, but they should both be fine and rock solid. A tentative price:
$4500.00 each

Miscellaneous

Sony 1270 switchers - I’ve got about 5 of these switchers here. 8 inputs, modular construction so that you can add extra input modules at will. I’ll sell the bare switchers at $50.00 each with no input cards. I’ve got rack ears for some at no extra charge.

IFB-10 RGB input boards for the Sony projectors and the above switchers $60.00 each
IFB 11 RGB inputs boards $75.00 each
Video/S-video input boards $50.00 each
IFB 12 component cards $175.00 each
4- assorted 10-20’ surplus RGBS cables, BNC to BNC $1.00 per foot


SIGNAL PROCESSORS
I’ve got stock of some factory reconditioned DVDO line doublers. I’ve got 4 V1’s, 5 V2’s and one PRO version. These are excellent quality little doublers that have been out there for a while now. The V1’s were the first units with one video and two S-video inputs. The V2’s added  aspect ratio conversion so that a 4;3 image would fit into a 16:9 screen. The PRO versions added one component input and color and tint controls. These should prove to be less money than buying one from the US for my Canadian customers. In original box with instructions, etc. A short 5’ SVGA to 5 BNC cable is included, which may be extended with BNC to BNC couplers.
V1 $300.00 CDN incl shipping anywhere in Canada.
V2 $325.00 CDN incl shipping
PRO $400.00 CDN incl shipping

1 - Focus Enhancements Quadscan video scaler. This is about a 3 year old video scaler with two inputs, either video, S-video or component, with up to line quadrupling output. Mint condition w/remote and original box with instructions. Works well with either digital or CRT projectors.
$350.00

1- Faroudja VP 400a line quadrupler. This is a late model improved version of the VP 400. video, S-video and component inputs with an RGB passthrough. Faroudja quality, this had some insane list price, and the specs and manual can be found here.  c/w original box, manual, etc. Very low hours on this unit.
$1750.00

LUMAGEN

Yes, it’s true, the Lumagen HDP units are FINALLY shipping, and Canada has some stock currently, however they sell out very quickly, and I’m finding it very hard to keep them in stock.  I strongly recommend the $100.00 US upgrade for any Lumagens that have a BNC connector output option (such as the HDP), a BNC connector is a MUCH better connector than the dinky SVGA connectors.  See here for the specs and US list pricing.

WEBSITE
While other than changing the projector lists, nothing has changed at www.curtpalme.com. Rest assured that BIG changes are coming very very soon. Keep checking, I’m currently laying out how the site will look, and what content it will have.  I will be concentrating on service issues, how to diagnose defective sets, etc. I’m also currently working on a simplified white balance setup for NEC PG and PG Xtra projectors, something that is badly needed.

Upcoming
1 - XG 135LC
2 - NEc Pg Xtras

2 - Marquee 9500LC Ultras - unknown condition, 1999 vintage Should be here at the end of February.
10 - Marquees - assorted models
5 - Barco 1208

Do I really need any more sets? Not really, but they keep coming in... : )
I’ve also got a bunch of other miscellaneous A/V stuff on ebay over the next few weeks. Keep an eye out for other electronics goodies...

Please bear with me while I catch up on emails over the next few days. I have a few straggling repairs and also have a number of projectors to ship out on Monday/Tuesday. I will answer the emails as I get them and in order, so if you don’t get a response for a few days, I’m still working on older emails.

Thanks for your support!

Curt Palme
Sound Solutions Inc
# 344-19567 Fraser Hwy.
Surrey, B.C.
V3S 9A4
(604) 514-1751
(604) 514-8934 (fax)
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