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drice1234
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: Which DVD players upconvert and output via component? |
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I am trying to put together an inexpensive setup for my son's soccer coach and am trying to find the above. I use a NeuNeo player that upconverts and outputs via component and would like to find the same for him. I really need to find something inexpensive as all of this is coming out of my pocket. I have a 1271q with a little text burn in the corners I have had sitting around, an old 5.1 receiver that the tuner does not work, I picked up a cheap set of surround sounds off of e-bay for $15 This guy is a teacher and his wife is a stay at home mom so he does not have the cash to outlay for a theater setup. I had the teams soccer party at my house and he was blown away by my setup so I figured it would be a nice reward for his coaching efforts to provide something for him.
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Dan
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ecrabb
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That's mighty nice of you!
If you go with a Chinese or Korean player that will upconvert (scale) over component, then you're going to need a transcoder. Even a cheapy transcoder like a Vdigi will run another $50 or so. Total is what $150 or so?
You could go with a cheap HDMI-based player like a Philips from Walmart ($40), but then you have to add a HD Fury. Total is $200 or so. Ouch.
Would 480p be good enough for a freebie setup? You should be able to find a DVD player with VGA out, and just add a VGA to BNC cable. I would think you should be able to find one around in the Videogon or AVS marketplace or fleabay for under $50.
EDIT - Wow, I forgot about some of those older players!
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drice1234
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| Quote: | | then you're going to need a transcoder |
Curious as to why I will need the transcoder. I am running the component out from my older NeuNeo unit directly into my D50. Does the D50 have something that performs this task internal that the 1271q does not? 480p will definitely be better than 480i if I can find one of these DVD players. If anyone knows any model numbers that would help. Thanks for the help.
Dan
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mike calcott
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Most D50's have componant inputs , 12xxx do not
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drice1234
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[quote]Most D50's have componant inputs , 12xxx do not [quote]
Aha, I have had the 1271 sitting in the corner for so long I have forgotten what sort of inputs it has.
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mike calcott
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I believe the component board from a D50 will fit a 12xxx series, check with Curt he might have one
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| mike calcott wrote: | | I believe the component board from a D50 will fit a 12xxx series, check with Curt he might have one |
Nope the D50's is built into the case.
See the pictures in this thread:
https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=8442.html
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drice1234
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I wish I would have kept all of my old parts. I had a DVDO doubler, a Sony 1271 switcher with all of the boards and an OTA HD Satellite receiver. I would have been able to set him up pretty well if I would have kept all of this stuff. Lesson for the future, never sell anything.
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Dan, let me know if you want to go the component route. I have an Oppo 971 I need to sell which can have firmware installed to upconvert via component. It is one of the better component output players.
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drice1234
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I guess I still get confused about the inputs. On the back of the 1271 I have 5 BNC connectors labeled the following;
R G/G Sync B Sync/HD VD
Is this not a component input? Could it be that this PJ had a component board added?
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ecrabb
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Component is YPrPb - only three connectors - and it's a totally different color space from RGB.
The interface you have on the 1271 is a combo RGB interface. Using that, the 1271 can handle RGB 3 different ways: RGsB (sync on green, sometimes called SoG, 3 wires), RGBS (composite (H and V together) sync, 4 wires), or RGBHV (5-wire, separate H and V sync).
The input on the D50 can handle video input in any of the above-mentioned formats - all on the same connectors, just by configuring the hardware with internal menus.
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drice1234
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| Quote: | Component is YPrPb - only three connectors - and it's a totally different color space from RGB.
The interface you have on the 1271 is a combo RGB interface. Using that, the 1271 can handle RGB 3 different ways: RGsB (sync on green, sometimes called SoG, 3 wires), RGBS (composite (H and V together) sync, 4 wires), or RGBHV (5-wire, separate H and V sync). |
I keep thinking that the 5 BNC connectors equal component. So, I am back to finding a DVD player that will output via a VGA connection which is an RGB interface, correct? And if so, more than likely this output will be a 480p at the maximum? I think that I will just try to find another DVDO iScan Plus off of e-bay and just use a normal DVD player. Thanks for the help
Dan
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