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pamperchu
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Portland, Oregon
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: n00b to the CRT world |
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I just got a CRT projector the other day. (my 1st one) and I have opened it up and made a few ajustments to get an OK picture for now. I went online and tryed to find any info about it, but cant find anything. its a PV800P. I have it sorta set up for now but would like to set it up the right way to get the best picture.
a short video
http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k267/x2218/?action=view¤t=ccrrtprojector.flv
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 18114 Location: Ottawa, Canada
TV/Projector: JVC DLA-NZ7
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pamperchu
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Portland, Oregon
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well i have no money to play with right now. i got this for only $25 at some thrift store. i go to school for electronics and i wanted to learn more about this kinda stuff.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 18114 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Nothing wrong with that!
Just make sure to not think "man CRT projectors suck!" when you see the image quality that this one puts out. That's sort of like assuming that all cars suck when all you've driven is a Yugo (and have never sat in a Porsche/Ferrari).
Far too often we have people come here and say that they never considered CRT because all they've ever seen is the 25 year old piece of junk set up in their local bar, and it looked like crap.
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Yes, no offense, but that projector is probably like a Close-n-play record player. It will display an image, but even inexpensive projectors like Kal mentions will throw a MUCH better picture. It was popular in its day (mostly because it was cheap compared to other CRTs), but that's a 20-year-old set. Technology moved a LOT in the next 10 years.
If you want info on it, try searching for Zenith PV800. Curt even mentions it on this site: http://www.curtpalme.com/CRTPrimer_29.shtm
You should try to find another CRT owner in Portland so you can see what they're capable of. Unless you're happy with the Zenith picture and don't want a new addiction.
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pamperchu
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Portland, Oregon
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yah I know how much better CRTs can be. I also have an older boxlight digital projector from 1995 that doesn't look as good as this PV800 does. I will keep my eyes open for a better one but for now I want to learn what I can and be able to p0wn any sales clerks that try to tell me whats better. ^_^
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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Hey hey hey, I started in this industry because of that projector! Don't knock it.
The first one I installed was at the Blue Boy strip bar locally in June 1985. They bought 4 more once they saw the image that kicked the crap out of the Kloss Novabeam. I sold 100s of those over the years.
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papalek
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1536 Location: Longs SC
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My first CRT PJ was a PV820. I used it EVERY day for ten years. I bought it used for $1600 with screen in 1988 and it died in 98 or 99. I had it set up on a 7ft wide screen. ALL the lights had to be off for a decent picture but it was way better than anything that was at any off the bars that I seen. Now compared to what I have now it looked like total sh*t. But for video only it can look pretty good if well set up. Then again my memory could be making it look better than it did,it has been about ten years since I had that machine.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 18114 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Curt Palme wrote: | Hey hey hey, I started in this industry because of that projector! Don't knock it.
The first one I installed was at the Blue Boy strip bar locally in June 1985. They bought 4 more once they saw the image that kicked the crap out of the Kloss Novabeam. I sold 100s of those over the years. |
Yeah, but that was in 1985. I had a pretty good computer back in 1985 as well, but the 1K of RAM it had won't do me much good today.
Even if you could buy a PV800 today with brand new parts, it would look considerably worse than any other newer technology *used* CRT projector. Add the fact that any PV800 found today is not new but 20+ years old and likely has 20,000+ hours on it, and it just gets worse.
Nothing wrong with tinkering though!
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papalek
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1536 Location: Longs SC
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I would bet that it will be hard to beat the pic it throws with anything else that you could buy for $25.
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pamperchu
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Portland, Oregon
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heh I just got done watching airheads on it. funny movie. GO laserdisc!! ^_^
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TV/Projector: Sony 1252Q, AMPRO 4000G
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| pamperchu wrote: | | heh I just got done watching airheads on it. funny movie. GO laserdisc!! ^_^ |
to analog
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MYoung
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 369 Location: Madison, WI
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Hey, Vidimagics (aka $#!%imagics) sell for what, maybe $50 on fleaBay? That think surely smokes a Vidimagic! I'd say $25 wasn't a bad deal, though I like my 1292Q for $500 better! If you think that thing rocks you're just scratching the surface of CRT front projection! Welcome to the addiction!
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Fujifrontier
Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Yes, I can attest to the supreme crapitude of a vidimagic.
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Dave Lister
Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 436 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| Dave Lister wrote: | Viditragic.  |
What we like to call a 'Proof of Concept'
C'mon now were they actually THAT bad?
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unkyjoesa
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 84 Location: Marion TX
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I started with a Sony 1271Q myself and I loved that PJ.
They can be had cheap all over the place, they throw a great image, are simple to setup. Built like a tank.
One problem is replacement tubes, but you can find them out there.
Congrats on joining the club it is a good obsession and will bring many hours of fun and movie watching.
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Fujifrontier
Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas
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| Dave Lister wrote: | Viditragic.  |
HAHAHA. Yes, that is quite accurate.
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