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Moome card's, HD-Fury and the Sony PC-1271 switcher

 
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:05 am    Post subject: Moome card's, HD-Fury and the Sony PC-1271 switcher

I did some testing these past two weekend's with the following componnet's:

Sony PC-1271 switcher ( henceforth refered to as the PC1271)
-with IFB-11 and IFB12

Sony IFU-1271 duplexer

2005 Moome DVI / componet card ( henceforth refered to as the 05/DVI or just DVI card )

2007 Moome HDMI/componet card with gama and remote (henceforth refered to as the 07/HDMI or just HDMI card )

HD-Fury with RGBHV cable

Sony CPD-G520P 21" CRT monitor ( refered to as the G520P )

Ampro 4000G CRT projector

Green Machine HTPC with ATi 3850 and LG bluray/HD-DVD drive. ( refered to as the HTPC )

5 night's of my time. ( hard to come by it seems )

I've always seen it written that you can slap (slide ) a Moome card in your Sony PC-1271 switcher, run DVI or HDMI into it ( depending on the model of the Moome card ) and get a great high def at the RGBHV outputs of the switcher.

For this I've bought two Moome cards the 05/DVI and the 07/HDMI. Slid them both into my pc1271

I finaly got around to trying this. Initial test's with the G520P and the HTPC were disapointing to say the least. It seemed beyond 640 x 480 I couldn't get a reliable picture. I thought it may be the new ATi card because I had run the same pc1271 05/DVI combo at another forum members house with his Sony 1272 projector at 720P and even tried 1080P and I got a picture ( blurry but there ) when I had the GeForce 8600 card in the HTPC.

So I tried another PC with an ATi 9800 Pro card. It worked at 640 x 480 over DVI and wouldn't display anything higher. Then I tried my Win98 gaming box with a GeForce 7800GS over DVI with the Moome card installed in the Sony IFU-1271 duplexer and got the same results. Intermitant at best when using signal's above 640 x 480. Some work and some don't.

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In the first weekends testing I ran the output of the PC1271 into the Ampro 4000( I have two PC-1271 switchers ) and it lit up at all resolutions. This tells me that the G520P monitor doensn't like the signal combination of the ATi/Moome (05or 07) through the PC1271 switcher.

Now I didn't have the Ampro setup on a screen, it fact it was half pointed at a wood paneld wall and the other half on a black celing. So the second weekend I set it up on a screen and tried all the testing again. Well that was an eye opener!

I did a parallel test from the HTPC with componet cables and HDMI into the 07 moome card. This was installed in the PC1271 and then RGBHV to the Ampro 4000. I ran it at 1080i and did the A/D comparison.

Analog looked great! HDMI well it reminded me of the old macrovision days with a really badly encoded tape. The picture was unwatchable. See the 2 pic's below.



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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Moome card's, HD-Fury and the Sony PC-1271 switcher PART 2

Ok that really annoyed me. I've got some decent money invested in switcher/moome cards and HTPC and I want it all to gel nicely.

It's d!ital therefore it never works right!

Well not to be detered. I unscrewed the HD-Fury from my G520P and decided to run it through the PC-1271 and back to the G520P for testing.

Now understand, except for some geometry and shift issues, the HD-Fury is working as advertised. SO I figured I'd hang it off the IFB-11 card with the 6" RGBHV cable, and try it out.

my notes from Feb 17, 2008 wrote:

Sony PC1271 switcher
with IFB-11 and IB-12 input cards installed
HD-Fury with RGBHV breakout cable 6" from HK,power cord (powered offf computers USB port)

Results:
IFB-11

Some resolutions from 640x480 to 1440 x 1080 work with this combo.
Nothing above those resolutions though. No 1680x1050,1776x100, 1080P or 1080i or it seems 720P!


So since I had the IFB-12 I thought I'd try it too.

my notes from Feb 17, 2008 wrote:


IFB-12

o.oKhz H 42HZ vertical is displayed on th G520P when I try to use any of the inbetween resolutions ie, 1600x 900,1680x1050,1776x1000

1080P/60, 720P/60 and 72 work fine. It looks like not all the EDID resolutions are supported by this combo?!


Acording to the G520P it's not seeing a signal all the time. BUT it worked at 1080P/60! It looked the same ( except for a little video noise that I didn't have when running directly into the back of the monitor ) as it did hooked up to the G520P directly.

I'm thinking the IFB-12 boost's the output signal somehow.

I ran out of time to try this on the Ampro ( more on that later when I get a chance to try it )

I've been sitting around puzeling this out when Papalek mentioned in this thread that his Ampro likes a hotter signal. Seeing as these devices ( HD-Fury, Moome 05 and 07 ) are meant to be installed directly on or inside the display's maybe they just can't put out enough voltage to provide a good signal over the d!gitla side of things?

The componet looked great!

The next piece in my testing will be an Extron box to boost the signal.

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