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Surge protection and filtering

 
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stefuel



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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Surge protection and filtering

The APC UPS that I want to install in my equipment rack lists 880 joules with full time multi-pole noise filtering of 0.3% IEEE surge let-through and zero clamping response time. It claims to meet UL 1449 (whatever that is). Does that 880 joule rating sound low or do companies like Monster have inflated specifications with joule ratings in 5 digits?

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject:

have a read here:

www.brickwall.com

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
have a read here:

www.brickwall.com


I hope you are not suggesting that he spend money on this?

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Surge protection and filtering

stefuel wrote:
The APC UPS that I want to install in my equipment rack lists 880 joules with full time multi-pole noise filtering of 0.3% IEEE surge let-through and zero clamping response time. It claims to meet UL 1449 (whatever that is). Does that 880 joule rating sound low or do companies like Monster have inflated specifications with joule ratings in 5 digits?


All it means is that when that joules rating is exceeded, you have to buy another surge protector. It is unlikely that rating will be exceeded.

You best bet is not a point of use device if you only care about surge protection. Your best bet is whole house surge protection that costs about $100.

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97ss150



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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:36 am    Post subject:

hey dave so what product do you reccomend? i would like to do that as well.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject:

Lots of good reading here, with me always being the skeptic....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=976887
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject:

sounds like a good idea if it works as described.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject:

97ss150 wrote:
hey dave so what product do you reccomend? i would like to do that as well.


My second paragraph has the recommendation. Smile

The only gripe I have against the Brickwall devices is they think you should pay extra because they never fail. So what? You have less than a 1% chance of exceeding the joules rating of an MOV-based device. So, you should pay double just on the VERY RARE chance your MOV-based device has to do its job, then you'll have to buy a replacement MOV-based device? That seems really silly to me. Especially since you are still talking about a point of use device. I don't know about you, but I have computers and 3 rooms with A/V equipment, so spend the money on whole house to protect it all, or 4-8 times as much on point of use devices to protect it all? The choice is pretty obvious. Smile

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ronholm



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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject:

"surge" did somebody say "surge"

Oh crapp.. Wrong forum.. Laughing




Protect the whole house and forget about it...

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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject:

ronholm wrote:
"surge" did somebody say "surge"

Oh crapp.. Wrong forum.. Laughing




Protect the whole house and forget about it...



LOL.... Please don't let this turn into a $300 power cord thread. Smile

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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject:

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LOL.... Please don't let this turn into a $300 power cord thread.

Mike


$300...

Where do you find quality power cords so cheap, the cheapest I've found is $1,500...

But it's worth it, it doubled the resolution of my G70 and made it look better than a G90 Wink

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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject:

Say........aren't those made in West Korea?
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
Say........aren't those made in West Korea?


those are not.

but as we all knowthe Johnco Company of W. Korea is the exclusive manufacturer of Single strand, Oxygen free, Cryogenically treated power cord.

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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject:

Only kitechen scraps? Will it work with old baby diapers or will that provide dirty power?
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