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halftrack
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 23
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: Nec XG throw distances |
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Can someone please help me with the throw distance for a Nec xg/85
for the min. throw distance for a 110" torus screen. I have a Sony D50
that I would like to replace. I've been thinking about going digital and
looking at the JVC RS1 but I like my crt a lot. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
John
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
What lenses do you have on the XG? Probable HD144 or HD145's?
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halftrack
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 23
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure the guy selling it lives 4 hours away and he doesn't seem to know much
about it. But it has both remotes and ceiling mount and 2000 hours on it.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Can you at least get a non-flash picture of the tubes with the lenses off? A 2000 hour set, properly set up may be excellent, but a 2000 hour set done wrong may have toasted tubes.
Will you inspect it before you buy or are you having it shipped?
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halftrack
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 23
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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It was in a hospital exec. theater room and non-smoking. I will drive down at look at it before I buy.
before I drive all the way down there I need to know if it will need to be closer or farer away from
the screen than the Sony. I have limited space because of the way the room is set up with its walls.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ahh I see, you're kind of in a catch 22 then.
You'll need Doug, or Mark or one of the other NEC guys to pipe in.
What lenses does your D50 have one it just for reference? HD-6's?
Not sure of the exact throw distances but the HD-144's have a shorter throw than the HD-145's. Maybe we can figure this out with PJCalc ( Sony ) and the NEC spec sheets.
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halftrack
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I just looked the Sony has HD-6's is that a good thing.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| halftrack wrote: | | I just looked the Sony has HD-6's is that a good thing. |
Those are the stock lenses, it just give the guys that play with lenses a point of reference. One of the other guys will pipe in I'm sure.
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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It will have 144's. And I would mount it 1.3x screen width away for a normal screen, maybe 1.32x.
I'm not sure about a torus.
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halftrack
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Is their lens that will let me mount it closer?
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Mark_A_W
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No.
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Jesse S
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My xg135LC has HD-16's IIRC. How do those compare to hd-144/145?
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NateTTU
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I'll just throw out my current suggestion and confirm with a throw distance of around 1.35x screen width. Mine is pushing the boundary though and the raster is pretty close to the edge. I'll probably redo the setup here in a couple of weeks and I'm going to set it up just a slight further back. I have a XG LC btw.
Nate
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kschmit2
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| halftrack wrote: | | Is their lens that will let me mount it closer? |
Like Mark said the HD-144s need approx. 1.3x (Runco says 1.33x) throw distance.
The HD-145 should be about 1.4x throw distance (Runco also says 1.4x for the HD-145).
IIRC the HD-145 was a drop-in replacement for the HD-6C
Kai
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kschmit2
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| Jesse S wrote: | | My xg135LC has HD-16's IIRC. How do those compare to hd-144/145? | 3
I thought they're HD-18s.
In any case LC lenses are a totally different design due to the LC element (1st lens element so to speak) being part of the tube assembly.
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Mark_A_W
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As Kai said, the HD-18 LC lenses are completely different.
But for completeness, my XG with HD-144s (and Xtra) was bang on 1.3x width. My XG LC is at 1.3x + 100mm.
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halftrack
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I would like to thank you everyone for helping me out. I'm going down tomorrow to buy the Nec if its in
good shape. I am not sure if I am smart enough to set the Nec up but maybe you guy's can
answer any question I will have in the setup. The Sony d50 was fairly easy to understand. No digital for me yet.
Thank you all.
John
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