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PS3 screwed up my 4:3 setup

 
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wendortb



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Location: Martinsville, IN

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: PS3 screwed up my 4:3 setup

I recently hooked up a ps3 to my sony 1272. I have a screen that is 4:3. Before, If I watched material that was in widescreen (most stuff), I would just let it fall into the area of the 4:3. This was not a big deal for me because my screen is of decent size. I have the hd-a2, which I can setup for 4:3 and an HD tuner, which I can also setup for 4:3. I have everything setup in 1080i.


After I added the ps3, I could not find a setting for 4:3 tv's, so I had to change the height of the picture so everything wasn't stretched. In doing so, since my other sources are 1080i also, I had to change my other sources to only output in widescreen. So now my hd tuner and hd-a2 display a 4:3 picture inside of the 16:9 setup on my larger 4:3 screen.(4:3 Picture is smaller than 4:3 screen)

Does anyone have any suggestions as to anything I can do? I don't watch too much 4:3 material but it is something that kind of bothers me because I now have unused screen material at the top and bottom.

The only option I can think of is to replace my screen with a screen that is 16:9 My screen is the parkland material so it was pretty cheap. I could also just mask off these areas with some velveteen.

Anyone have any other ideas/suggestions?


I hope this is clear as mud to everyone. Thumbs Up
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Ile



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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject:

Adjust 4:3 geometry to another memory block. I'd use some 4:3 resolution for that.
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wendortb



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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject:

I am not sure I can do that. The 1272 has memory blocks according to a frequency range the are predefined. After I adjusted the memory block for the ps3 so the image wasn't stretched, the image from the hd-a2 was then squashed. This tells me that the hd-a2 in 4:3 mode at 1080i setting is in the same memory block as the ps3 at 1080i widescreen. If you tell me I am wrong then that is great, but I think I am right on this.

If I can't adjust something here, I guess it doesn't bother me that much to change my screen to 16:9 for all my sources and let 4:3 material fall into that. I was just hoping there was something I could change easily instead of having to create a new screen.
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ecrabb
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject:

You could do what Ile suggests and run a different resolution/memory block for the PS3, but I'd say you need to think about the screen issue...

How much 4:3 material do you even watch? 10%? 20%? Do you really want what little 4:3 material you do watch (in crap SD, no less) to be BIGGER than the beautiful widescreen HD material you watch? Thank about how tiny a cinemascope presentation is compared to 4:3!

Guys go to crazy (expensive) lengths with blended CRT setups and digital projectors with anamorphic lenses to do constant-height setups... to get their wider formats to be larger instead of smaller... With your 4:3 screen, you have exactly the opposite. The 4:3 material is the biggest, and with each wider format, your presentation gets smaller and smaller. That's not right!

I'd ditch the 4:3 screen and go widescreen. Just do it. It's home theater, not big TV!

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ecrabb
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject:

He's saying you run the PS3 at a completely different resolution - 720p for instance. Adjust the geometry for widescreen, and leave all your other 4:3 sources at 1080i with the geometry adjusted to 4:3. That would work.

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject:

Ahhh you need to read this: http://www.lostboy.com/vph-12xx/5BNC.pdf
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wendortb



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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject:

ecrabb: Well, that isn't a bad point about going w/ a 16:9 screen instead of a 4:3 screen. I think I may end up doing that. It didn't really bother me with the 4:3 material being larger than 16:9. I know the lower quality was larger than the hd, but I was able to deal with it pretty well. BTW, 720p, in my opinion doesn't look as clear as 1080i on the 1272 so I would like to stick with 1080i if possible.

AnalogRocks: I actually have a pc-1270 switcher in my setup so I don't think I will be able to use that method, although I didn't know that you could do that. Thanks

I was kind of hoping there was a setting I missed on the ps3, but I guess there isn't. I don't really mind going to 16:9 screen now because then I can raise my center speaker up a little more Very Happy

Now I have to decide what cheap screen material to go with.

Thanks,

Travis
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ecrabb
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject:

I'm sure it's one of the options you were referring to, but be sure you check out the threads on WilsonArt laminate - I love mine.

I still can't believe the quality I get out of my source/projector/screen setup. Considering how little it all cost, it's almost mind-blowing. I'm giddy every time I head down to the theater and fire it up. It looks INCREDIBLE.

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wendortb



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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject:

ecrabb wrote:
I'm sure it's one of the options you were referring to, but be sure you check out the threads on WilsonArt laminate - I love mine.

I still can't believe the quality I get out of my source/projector/screen setup. Considering how little it all cost, it's almost mind-blowing. I'm giddy every time I head down to the theater and fire it up. It looks INCREDIBLE.

SC

Have you or anyone else compared this to the Parkland stuff that was the rage a couple years ago? I am wondering if it would be worth it to buy the wilsonart to replace my parkland and start from scratch, or take my existing parkland and either cut it down or mask it with velveteen. I may, for a temporary solution, just mask over the unused parts of the screen.

How about a painted screen/mdf compared to wilsonart? I think I have heard it is tuff to do the painted screen, but if the results are better, then lets go for it Thumbs Up

Although if I change my screen and the way it is mounted (currently parkland on 1/2" mdf screwed straight to the wall) that will force me to redo the setup on my projector. I don't think I have done a full setup on my projector for at least 8 months. I have actually been enjoying my setup. I have done some minor touchup over the past few months though.

One quick question, I never checked the g2 voltages of my 1272. When I eventually redo the setup I will do this, my question though is can I use an analog multimeter or does it have to be digital. I would guess a digital would be more accurate though.
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