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yonexsp
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| Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: Moome PWC-M2005A+ Vs Newer Moome |
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For those that have upgraded, aside from Gamma correction, is there a big difference in picture quality with the newer cards?
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moome
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Moome PWC-M2005A+ Vs Newer Moome |
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| yonexsp wrote: | | For those that have upgraded, aside from Gamma correction, is there a big difference in picture quality with the newer cards? |
the new card support more mode of video, like 422 444 mode, and 16-235 color range, longer cable length...etc!
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yonexsp
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Moome, what does that mean in practical terms when I am feeding it a signal from a HD DVD player etc?
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yonexsp
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One more question, will it take a 1080p signal from a HD-A30 HD DVD player over DVI?
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moome
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: |
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for HD DVD no difference, but other player have black problem with DVI mode output, when using HDMI, it will no problem.
i have not check A30 yet! but XA2 with DVI no problem!
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yonexsp
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| moome wrote: | for HD DVD no difference, but other player have black problem with DVI mode output, when using HDMI, it will no problem.
i have not check A30 yet! but XA2 with DVI no problem! |
Thx Moome, I tried it with A30 tonight, and it connected no problem. But the image was bad, due to the fact that I can't control the porches etc so it was wrapped around on itself and other weird things. This is more to do with the XG than anything else. If I used a HTPC I can get rid of all of that.
But to early for a HTPC for HD Media right now. Still to problematic & costly.
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moome
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | for HD DVD no difference, but other player have black problem with DVI mode output, when using HDMI, it will no problem.
i have not check A30 yet! but XA2 with DVI no problem! |
Thx Moome, I tried it with A30 tonight, and it connected no problem. But the image was bad, due to the fact that I can't control the porches etc so it was wrapped around on itself and other weird things. This is more to do with the XG than anything else. If I used a HTPC I can get rid of all of that.
But to early for a HTPC for HD Media right now. Still to problematic & costly. |
can you send the image to my email box:
moome@seed.net.tw
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yonexsp
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| moome wrote: | | yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | for HD DVD no difference, but other player have black problem with DVI mode output, when using HDMI, it will no problem.
i have not check A30 yet! but XA2 with DVI no problem! |
Thx Moome, I tried it with A30 tonight, and it connected no problem. But the image was bad, due to the fact that I can't control the porches etc so it was wrapped around on itself and other weird things. This is more to do with the XG than anything else. If I used a HTPC I can get rid of all of that.
But to early for a HTPC for HD Media right now. Still to problematic & costly. |
can you send the image to my email box:
moome@seed.net.tw |
Hi Moome, I gave the A30 back. Perhaps someone else can try it, I am sure all XG's will exibit this with the DVI card and 1080P
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moome
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | | yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | for HD DVD no difference, but other player have black problem with DVI mode output, when using HDMI, it will no problem.
i have not check A30 yet! but XA2 with DVI no problem! |
Thx Moome, I tried it with A30 tonight, and it connected no problem. But the image was bad, due to the fact that I can't control the porches etc so it was wrapped around on itself and other weird things. This is more to do with the XG than anything else. If I used a HTPC I can get rid of all of that.
But to early for a HTPC for HD Media right now. Still to problematic & costly. |
can you send the image to my email box:
moome@seed.net.tw |
Hi Moome, I gave the A30 back. Perhaps someone else can try it, I am sure all XG's will exibit this with the DVI card and 1080P |
ok! did your card update edid before?
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yonexsp
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| moome wrote: | | yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | | yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | for HD DVD no difference, but other player have black problem with DVI mode output, when using HDMI, it will no problem.
i have not check A30 yet! but XA2 with DVI no problem! |
Thx Moome, I tried it with A30 tonight, and it connected no problem. But the image was bad, due to the fact that I can't control the porches etc so it was wrapped around on itself and other weird things. This is more to do with the XG than anything else. If I used a HTPC I can get rid of all of that.
But to early for a HTPC for HD Media right now. Still to problematic & costly. |
can you send the image to my email box:
moome@seed.net.tw |
Hi Moome, I gave the A30 back. Perhaps someone else can try it, I am sure all XG's will exibit this with the DVI card and 1080P |
ok! did your card update edid before? |
No, I'll update tonight if I can. But it exhibited this behavior on the Component inputs as well, where I imagine there is no EDID interaction for obvious reasons.
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disking
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Moome was your DVI card 1080i only due to the chip that was used.
I do not think that your DVI cards can do 1080p.
Graham
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moome
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| disking wrote: | Moome was your DVI card 1080i only due to the chip that was used.
I do not think that your DVI cards can do 1080p.
Graham |
the DVI card use the same chip as HDfury, it sure support 1080P, i have test many with my XA2 and PS3,
no problem at all, yours dvi card may need new edid to support that, old edid support 1080i only!
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yonexsp
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| moome wrote: | | disking wrote: | Moome was your DVI card 1080i only due to the chip that was used.
I do not think that your DVI cards can do 1080p.
Graham |
the DVI card use the same chip as HDfury, it sure support 1080P, i have test many with my XA2 and PS3,
no problem at all, yours dvi card may need new edid to support that, old edid support 1080i only! |
Does someone have a FAQ on how to update the EDID with a PC, flashing software and the new EDID file?
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yonexsp
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | | yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | | yonexsp wrote: | | moome wrote: | for HD DVD no difference, but other player have black problem with DVI mode output, when using HDMI, it will no problem.
i have not check A30 yet! but XA2 with DVI no problem! |
Thx Moome, I tried it with A30 tonight, and it connected no problem. But the image was bad, due to the fact that I can't control the porches etc so it was wrapped around on itself and other weird things. This is more to do with the XG than anything else. If I used a HTPC I can get rid of all of that.
But to early for a HTPC for HD Media right now. Still to problematic & costly. |
can you send the image to my email box:
moome@seed.net.tw |
Hi Moome, I gave the A30 back. Perhaps someone else can try it, I am sure all XG's will exibit this with the DVI card and 1080P |
ok! did your card update edid before? |
No, I'll update tonight if I can. But it exhibited this behavior on the Component inputs as well, where I imagine there is no EDID interaction for obvious reasons. |
I need to correct myself. I never tested this on component, as the player did not pass the 1080p signal over component for obvious reasons. So, I'll flash the EDID and get another A30 to test
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CX
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Moome PWC-M2005A+ Vs Newer Moome |
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"]For those that have upgraded, aside from Gamma correction, is there a big difference in picture quality with the newer cards?[/quote]kal wrote:
paw wrote:
HMMM!!!! It's significantly less sharp than the HDFury & RTC2000 combo. Did anything change with your setup? Can you redo the HDFury & RTC2000 test? Maybe even the HDFury alone, if possible? The EXT-HD should be sharper.
I may redo shots of both boxes in the future, but the purpose here wasn't to compare the two. I mentioned above that the last screenshot seems overly soft. I even took it 3 times because I *knew* someone would ask. Smile I doesn't look that soft in real life. In fact the HDfury and EXT-HD look pretty much the same in terms of sharpness to me, but I'll leave that sort of comparison to someone equipped to do better side by side tests.
Kal
What's the real gain then here, i believe Moome has stated that his old PWC-M2005A is equal to the HD fury (except for hdmi convenience of the EXT HD)
Could it be that the (price) difference in parts of the new VIM HD and the EXT-HD led to a lesser/softer picture, and then tried to compensate this with some extra EE sharpness?
CX
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