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kevin_k
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: VDC rebuild or new |
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I'm going to replace the green tube on my xg1352. Was wondering if I should buy new or get a rebuild. There is a $200 difference.
I'm figuring I need it to last less than 1000 hours before I decide to go over to the (hopefully by then) just as dark side.
Thanks Kevin
Oh and what's difference between the P16LJE07 & 08
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AnalogRocks
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I'd go new. It'll be a selling point, especially on a higher end set like that, when you decide to go into the grey.
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kevin_k
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I'm thinking what's it going to be worth in 3 years the way prices are diving. I guess that's the unknown, what will digitals be like by then. Will we be happy with there picture then.
If it's worth 1000.00 now with a bad green tube and I sink 700.00 into it, put 1000 hours on it and resell it in 3 years it's probably still worth just the 1000.00??? I don't know.
There's also the WAF. She's seeing friends digitals and saying those are so easy to set up, throw a decent picture "why don't we do that"
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draganm
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| kevin_k wrote: | | There's also the WAF. She's seeing friends digitals and saying those are so easy to set up, throw a decent picture "why don't we do that" |
tell her that bleating with the rest of the flock is the worst reason to do anything in this world.  If your green tube is really fried then replacing it will deliver a pic that's much more than "decent". If your not running an HMI 1.3 signal with HD feed then that's a much better place to spend money than a bulb burner.
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kevin_k
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah that's a good idea. I've been following that thread. Buy the rebuild and put the difference towards the hdmi card.
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dbaisey
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The value of CRT is not in the resale value. Its in usable hours. It deserves respect that it has earned over the years. Doug
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kevin_k
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Doug, it seems as though your telling me to go new? What can I expect from a rebuild at VDC, will I be happy with it?
Also what is the difference between a P16LJE07 and P16LJE08. I have and xg75 that has a good blue in it and I'm planning on putting the C element on it for my 1352.
thanks
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draganm
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| kevin_k wrote: | | Yeah that's a good idea. I've been following that thread. Buy the rebuild and put the difference towards the hdmi card. |
| dbaisey wrote: | | The value of CRT is not in the resale value. Its in usable hours. It deserves respect that it has earned over the years. Doug |
yes + yes  So a rebuilt tube + Moome HDMI external will set you back $900. Consider that to equal the XG135 you need a $4500. RS 1 + bulb replacement costs of $350. every 2K hours then on a dollar to dollar performance ratio the CRT wins easily.
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Mark_A_W
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VDC is not making P16LJE rebuilds any more - not for years (?).
Panasonic just recently stopped production of 07's and VDC bought the equipment, as far as I know.
Anyway, the difference between an 07 and an 08 is the 07 has a KH grid (theoretically improves bandwidth, no difference in practice to my eye). I lifted the KH resistor on my neckboard when I fitted an 08, as it grounds G1 through a (large value) 3M3 ohm resistor, but others haven't, and it seems to run fine without the mod.
Get an 06 or 07 if you can, but an 08 will work fine.
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kevin_k
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Mark
Doug straightened me out, I had 08 and meant 06. But they are interchangable the 06 and 07's?
VDC is offering a new 07 or a rebuild of existing so they must have bought the equipment.
They are asking 650 new and 450 rebuild.
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Mark_A_W
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Get a new one.
06 and 07 are identical, completely interchangeable.
I've got both and can find no difference at all. It might be something like they were made in different plants or production lines.
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AFryia
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| kevin_k wrote: | | They are asking 650 new and 450 rebuild. |
Kevin,
Is that the price for a bare tube?
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Dave Lister
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kevin_k
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| Quote: | Is she the one who sets up the PJ?
I'm guessing not.
Point out the cost of a digital technicolour flashlight (bulb burner/burster) versus the retubing and HDMI input cost and any wife will say "let's keep the CRT PJ", isn't it usually the wife who holds the purse strings....errr.....looks after the finances?
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She wants to buy a 1500.00 digital and she says she'd be happy with that. That's what scares me, I'm going to have to cut down on the tinkering so she doesn't get anymore ideas.
| Quote: | | Is that the price for a bare tube? |
Yea, bare tube
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Elaine Benes
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| kevin_k wrote: | What can I expect from a rebuild at VDC, will I be happy with it?
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You will absolutely NOT be happy with a rebuild.
They are substandard in every way.
They wear MUCH MUCH MUCH faster, they have a lower light output to start with, and the quality is TERRIBLE.
This is from my experience, I'm not a professional reseller, and I don't have a monetary stake in telling you anything but the truth about my experience....
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think of something useful she can spend the difference on, even if it is just put towards mortgage/credit card payments.
