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dbaisey
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: Update on Avia II. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray version release |
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Got this today.
The Avia II Guide to Home Theater calibration DVD (NTSC edition) is now
available. You may order your copy by visiting our online store at
www.ovationmultimedia.com and click on the STORE link, by fax at
740-373-6331 or call us directly between 8:00am and 4:00pm (EST) at
800-572-3917 or 740-373-6212. Shipping
options available are: USPS Priority and/or Global Mail and Fed Ex.
PLEASE NOTE: If you are an owner of the original Avia Guide to Home
Theater, we are offering an upgrade program. Please check our website for
details (click on the UPGRADE PROGRAM link) if you wish to participate.
The PAL version of Avia II, along with the HD editions (HD DVD and Blu-ray
discs) should be available by the end of 2007.
Thank you for your patience and your interest in our Avia II product!
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garyfritz
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FYI, the regular price for Avia II on the Ovation website is $50. Their "special upgrade offer" is $25 + $8 S&H for a total of $33. But anybody (previous Avia owner or not) can order Avia II from Amazon for $34.99 with free shipping!
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jask
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.....and they do not list CURTPALME.COM in the "home theater links"..... 
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kal
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jask
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| kal wrote: | Is it just me or does their website always require you to click twice on any link to activate it? WTF??
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strange.. single clicks work for me (Firefox)
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dbaisey
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Single click, Firefox also but it seems faster.
This has been delayed quite a long time so I'm hoping they have been working on colorspace for the HD DVD and Blue-Ray. Guess we will see. Doug
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kschmit2
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| kal wrote: | Is it just me or does their website always require you to click twice on any link to activate it? WTF??
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Kal, that's a Flash site.
IE7 does not give focus to Flash elements without the user clicking on them first (this is to prevent auto-execution of potentially malicious Flash-code).
Firefox does not offer that safeguard. If a Flash site contains malicious Flash code, Firefox will simply execute that code.
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kal
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Yep. IE 6 and 7 require double clicks. Firefox does not.
My point was more along the lines: Don't they test this crap?? IE is still the most used browser out there and requiring people to double click on anything on the web is a complete no-no in terms of usability. Especially since half of the links require double clicks (since the page is new) and half do not. A completely messed up experience for the end user.
IMHO, flash has it's place, but not for a complete web site design. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Kal
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jask
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| kschmit2 wrote: | | kal wrote: | Is it just me or does their website always require you to click twice on any link to activate it? WTF??
Kal |
Kal, that's a Flash site.
IE7 does not give focus to Flash elements without the user clicking on them first (this is to prevent auto-execution of potentially malicious Flash-code).
Firefox does not offer that safeguard. If a Flash site contains malicious Flash code, Firefox will simply execute that code. |
unless you have installed noscript 
http://noscript.net/
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ecrabb
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| kschmit2 wrote: | | Firefox does not offer that safeguard. If a Flash site contains malicious Flash code, Firefox will simply execute that code. |
IE has that safeguard because it actually needs it!!! Firefox is not wired into the operating system the same way IE is, therefore any malicious code won't be nearly as malicious (or can't be malicious at all, actually). Running in Firefox however, no such "safeguard" is necessary. The Flash player is actually quite secure; the security risk is in the way the browser (MSIE) and OS (Window) are designed - not in the Flash player itself.
The "click to activate" scheme is pretty ineffective, anyway. The only thing it will prevent is a "surprise attack" redirect on a user to execute malicious code. If the user clicks the content because they want to see Paris Hilton naked or the funny video of the baby laughing (social engineering), they're going to get the malicious code along with it.
I'd also like to point out the ActiveX "click to activate" issue affects many ActiveX controls besides Flash: PDF, QuickTime, Real, Java, and lots of other controls.
Lastly, there is a JavaScript fix for embedding Flash and other ActiveX controls to eliminate the "click twice" problem. Any site designer/developer worth his/her salt should have been using it since early 2006.
So, Kal - why are you using IE, anyway?
SC
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WanMan
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I'm curious as to why we are talking revisional releases and not something more along the lines of ATSC and HD DVD and Blu-ray.
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emdawgz1
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| ecrabb wrote: | | kschmit2 wrote: | | Firefox does not offer that safeguard. If a Flash site contains malicious Flash code, Firefox will simply execute that code. |
IE has that safeguard because it actually needs it!!! Firefox is not wired into the operating system the same way IE is, therefore any malicious code won't be nearly as malicious (or can't be malicious at all, actually). Running in Firefox however, no such "safeguard" is necessary. The Flash player is actually quite secure; the security risk is in the way the browser (MSIE) and OS (Window) are designed - not in the Flash player itself.
The "click to activate" scheme is pretty ineffective, anyway. The only thing it will prevent is a "surprise attack" redirect on a user to execute malicious code. If the user clicks the content because they want to see Paris Hilton naked or the funny video of the baby laughing (social engineering), they're going to get the malicious code along with it.
I'd also like to point out the ActiveX "click to activate" issue affects many ActiveX controls besides Flash: PDF, QuickTime, Real, Java, and lots of other controls.
Lastly, there is a JavaScript fix for embedding Flash and other ActiveX controls to eliminate the "click twice" problem. Any site designer/developer worth his/her salt should have been using it since early 2006.
So, Kal - why are you using IE, anyway?
SC |
Firefox has an extension called flashblock...
Never be annoyed by a Flash animation again! Blocks Flash so it won't get in your way, but if you want to see it, just click on...
Flashblock is an extension for the Mozilla, Firefox, and Netscape browsers that takes a pessimistic approach to dealing with Macromedia Flash content on a webpage and blocks ALL Flash content from loading. It then leaves placeholders on the webpage that allow you to click to download and then view the Flash content.
Flashblock currently blocks the following content types:
* Macromedia Flash
* Macromedia Shockwave
* Macromedia Authorware
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433
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WanMan
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I've been using Flashblock for a while. In fact, I am amazed at how idiotic my employer is for forwarding the notion that Firefox is more prone to virii and forces me to endure the endless flash advertising and pop-ups.
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