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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: Sony 09MX 9" Tubes Work In a 1292-Yes or No |
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Here's what this site says about the Barco 1200:
The Barco 9” sets started with the Graphics 1200. This set came out in 1993 and was in production until about 1995. This set used the same Sony tubes as the Sony 1292 and was razor sharp. The Sony tubes are not rebuildable however failure of this tube is rare. The Barco 1200 was a reliable chassis, and was replaced by the 1609 and 1209 sometime in 1995 or so.
Everyone on AVS seems to think 09MX tubes won't work in a 1292, that the 1292 requires 09MFX tubes.
Who's right?
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Man, I'm gettin' no love on this. 
Curt, I know you've seen this, I know you know the answer. How much do I have to pay you to tell me? Let me know and I'll PayPal it to you. 
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overclkr
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Phil,
According to what I've been told in the past, the tubes are identical and you can put 1200 tubes in a 1292 without mod.
Cliff
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mack1
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: |
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I thought that I seen a thread somewhere that you might be able to use these tubes if you changed a few wires around.................BUT don't quote me on this.A1292 takes 09mfx3 tubes..........stock
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys! I figure as many PJs as Curt has worked on, he's probably tried it at some point. I'd be nice to know for sure, and if they will work, if any neck board mods are required.
I'm not trying to be a smartass about paying. I will gladly pay for the info.
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mack1
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Phil when in doubt email the 1292 god------------Graham Johnston---look for the thread on the crt set-up dvd
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Mack1,
That is an excellent idea! I just sent Graham a PM.
I think I've smarted off to Curt one too many times.It appears he's not willing to help me even for money at this point. Who would have ever dreamed Curt would refuse to do ANYTHING that involved money. 
I don't think I've ever harassed Graham, so maybe he'll be willing to help. And in the unfortunate event that I have smarted off to Graham, hopefully he's got a little thicker skin than Curt and will help me anyway.
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Graham Johnson
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| Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thats done it. You penetrated my thick skin as well LMFAO
The answer is I am not sure.
I have used 09MFX2 to replace MFX3's
I did buy some tubes sight unseen from the USA about 2 years ago. I thought they where 09MX's But they where no good as they had short necks and where for ES focus machines.
The front bell housing etc was identical to MFX3's
Send me some photos with a ruler along side so i can guage the size and I will see how they measure up to MFX3's
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for responding Graham!
Here's a photo. It still has Barco 1200 LC hardware and electronics installed. My guess is it would be 42-44cm long if the the LC assembly was removed.
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Graham Johnson
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: |
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From the centre of the HV cap to the end of the plastic connector is exactly 14.5 inches.
If they measure the same I recon you can use em.
You need to take some shots in the neck of the tube so I can see the connections. say with the HV connector upwards. I need to see what pins connect where. then we will have a definitive answer.
GJ
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Mark_A_W
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"Reckon" Graham.
"Recon" is US military speak for "taking a look"...well, I think it is, Ron could probably sort me out there.
The tube is certainly not the short ES focus version.
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Graham Johnson
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | "Reckon" Graham.
"Recon" is US military speak for "taking a look"...well, I think it is, Ron could probably sort me out there.
The tube is certainly not the short ES focus version. |
Arnt we picky tonight !!! 
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Mark_A_W
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Yeah, sorry...it's just you do it every time, it's like you know it annoys me 
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Graham Johnson
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | | Yeah, sorry...it's just you do it every time, it's like you know it annoys me |
Now I know it really gets up your nose. What do you RECON the chances of me stopping are?? 
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Phil Smith
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Is reckon a word used in Ausie land? In the US, it's a slang word common in the South. Not really used in the rest of the states.
Graham, I'll get you some more pics this evening. Thanks again!
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papalek
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: |
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It is pronounced diferent in the south.
Recon basically means
"You Recon"="Do you think so?"
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| Graham Johnson wrote: | | From the centre of the HV cap to the end of the plastic connector is exactly 14.5 inches. |
Graham,
It is indeed about 14.5", so that's a good start.
Ok, I finally got time to take some pics. Note that 2 pins are clipped on the plug in photo #4. Hopefully that won't be a problem. Tell me if you need something else.
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overclkr
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Phil,
AWESOME PHOTO'S!!!!!
Cliff
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Cliff! I took those with my ebay setup, which has 3 studio strobes bouncing off the ceiling. It works well for shooting ebay stuff and this type of thing. I didn't have my exposure or distance right, and I actually could have done a better job. But for this it wasn't worth the trouble of taking them over again.
I have an old, low res (by today's standards) digital camera. Like they say, it's all about the lighting!
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