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paiaboy7
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:35 pm Post subject: Ampro 4200 Esprit Set Up |
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using the set up on this and notice the screen will go from square to distorted all of a sudden and then revert back. Also when I hook up with hd fury i get a red screen and can faintly see the blu ray player home screen. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Can you post a pix of the distorted test crosshatch pattern? Sounds like the convergence board is overheating, and is shutting off. Common with the Ampros, they have poor cooling on the heat sinks. Is it floor or ceiling mounted, and are the fans blocked?
You may not be able to use the HDFury with this set. I had nothing but issues trying to use a Fury with a later model 4600. You may need to stick with the BluRay component output via a transcoder to convert to RGBHV.
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paiaboy7
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Curt,
So I need a transcoder to use this projector? Can I use a component to rgb instead and if not where do I get the transcoder? Also how do I check hours on this projector?
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, that's the transcoder, a component to RGB converter. Check the manuals on the site for the Ampros, a bunch of them should have the 'code' list. It's been so long since I've had an Ampro up, I can't remember the code for the hour meter. 30 code maybe? 22?
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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I've used HDFury with my Ampro 4000 but had to run it into an Extron 202 box to shift it horizontally to get proper colors and picture.
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
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And that didn't work for the 4600 I had at a customer's place, go figure. You can definitely try an Extron box first, as they are cheap on eBay.. so are analog transcoders though.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | And that didn't work for the 4600 I had at a customer's place, go figure. You can definitely try an Extron box first, as they are cheap on eBay.. so are analog transcoders though. |
Cranky 4600 huh?
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paiaboy7
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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It is on floor when I tested but packed it back into moving case temporarily. The fans have room behind. I can try and take a pic later. Thanks
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | | And that didn't work for the 4600 I had at a customer's place, go figure. You can definitely try an Extron box first, as they are cheap on eBay.. so are analog transcoders though. |
Cranky 4600 huh? |
I took about 4 trips all the way to the other side of town, hell bent to fix the damn thing, and couldn't. Changed every board in the set. I have a feeling it was something to do with timing between the Fury and the projector, but even with an Extron, the shift didn't get far enough over until the color started shifting and the image went dark. The guy had a great theater to boot, very well designed.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | | And that didn't work for the 4600 I had at a customer's place, go figure. You can definitely try an Extron box first, as they are cheap on eBay.. so are analog transcoders though. |
Cranky 4600 huh? |
I took about 4 trips all the way to the other side of town, hell bent to fix the damn thing, and couldn't. Changed every board in the set. I have a feeling it was something to do with timing between the Fury and the projector, but even with an Extron, the shift didn't get far enough over until the color started shifting and the image went dark. The guy had a great theater to boot, very well designed. |
Which version of the HDFury?
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
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I think mine was a Fury3. If I remember (it was 6 years ago or so), he started with a I or II, and upgraded, which made no difference.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | I think mine was a Fury3. If I remember (it was 6 years ago or so), he started with a I or II, and upgraded, which made no difference. |
Wow and none of the picture shift stuff fixed it.
In that case a component to RGBHV transcoder would probably be best or add a full blown scaler after the HDFury and tweak until it works.
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stefuel
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3353 Location: Green Harbor MA USA
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I know a guy who had a 4600HD running off a HD Fury through a box 1020 or 1021 can't remember but had zero problems through many sets of tubes. That AmPro probably had more hours on it then all other AmPro's combined
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
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I believe that Scott (tse) said that early versions of the 4600 had the issue, later versions corrected it.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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I ran into three issues with the 4000 and the HDFury1. Flagging at 1080i (top of the picture bent over) no sync at 1440x960/72hz, and dark unusable picture until I shifted it over to the right with the EXTRON box.
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