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| Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:10 pm Post subject: Time to take the HD-DVD out of the rack? |
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I bet I have used my HD-DVD player three times in the last four years (or maybe even less). I'm having a hard time pulling it though. Should I dump it? It's an HDXA1 that a client gave me way back when he had two HD-DVD players and said he wanted me to have it. Somebody please push me over the edge!
Sad really.
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I use mine daily on my bench. Unless you've replaced all the movies with BR, leave it in. It's not worth anything otherwise. Mine is still in my rack, and one day Barb and I will watch Blue Planet in its entirety. 
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I still have my XA1 lovingly boxed up with all my other gear from the move. I just love it too much to get rid of it. 
I also have a like-new A1 that I'm going to gut and turn into an HTPC. It's good-sized, so plenty of room for a PSU and hard drive, and good ventilation. I like the form factor though and the case is pretty nice. It'll take a little fabrication, but I just cant seem to find an htpc case I like. If it goes well, it might eventually do the same with the XA1.
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I use it for burned HD DVDs that I make, so I have a use and reason to keep it in the rack. Besides, I have to do something with all those piles of Dual layer DVDs 
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| ecrabb wrote: | I still have my XA1 lovingly boxed up with all my other gear from the move. I just love it too much to get rid of it.
I also have a like-new A1 that I'm going to gut and turn into an HTPC. It's good-sized, so plenty of room for a PSU and hard drive, and good ventilation. I like the form factor though and the case is pretty nice. It'll take a little fabrication, but I just cant seem to find an htpc case I like. If it goes well, it might eventually do the same with the XA1.
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Have you seen the Zalman HD160XT? Its model is a few years old but I love it, and after some tweaking and head banging I got all the zalman software to function perfectly in windows 7 64 bit, including the touchscreen which a lot of owners had problems with apparently.
I love it since it has a lot of room, solid aluminum all the way around, built in touch display, and fits nicely with the equipment I have.
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I always liked this one:
http://www.origenae.co.kr/en/htpc_h5.htm
but I use an antec NSK2400 case anyway, that one is just too expensive
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| ecrabb wrote: | I still have my XA1 lovingly boxed up with all my other gear from the move. I just love it too much to get rid of it.
I also have a like-new A1 that I'm going to gut and turn into an HTPC. It's good-sized, so plenty of room for a PSU and hard drive, and good ventilation. I like the form factor though and the case is pretty nice. It'll take a little fabrication, but I just cant seem to find an htpc case I like. If it goes well, it might eventually do the same with the XA1.
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All right, you guys have grabbed me off the ledge and I've decided to keep the HD-XA1 in place for now. But I have to say that the idea of using the case for a HTPC down the road is really an awesome idea! Despite my publicly stated hatred of HTPC's I suspect that I will wind up building one down the road. I've looked at cases and the only ones I have found remotely acceptable cost over $300. The HD-XA1 case is perfect, and also better looking than anything I have seen in stores.
It's certainly not worth selling because I looked at eBay and the last one that sold (and the only one) in the past three months went for $29.99. This is well below the price threshold at which I sell anything on eBay.
So it stays until I NEED the space.
Thanks for the input guys.
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That's a nice case.
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| Jeremy112 wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | I still have my XA1 lovingly boxed up with all my other gear from the move. I just love it too much to get rid of it.
I also have a like-new A1 that I'm going to gut and turn into an HTPC. It's good-sized, so plenty of room for a PSU and hard drive, and good ventilation. I like the form factor though and the case is pretty nice. It'll take a little fabrication, but I just cant seem to find an htpc case I like. If it goes well, it might eventually do the same with the XA1.
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Have you seen the Zalman HD160XT? Its model is a few years old but I love it, and after some tweaking and head banging I got all the zalman software to function perfectly in windows 7 64 bit, including the touchscreen which a lot of owners had problems with apparently.
I love it since it has a lot of room, solid aluminum all the way around, built in touch display, and fits nicely with the equipment I have. |
That is also a nice case. But I wonder how much of a nightmare it would be to get Linux based XBMC to run the LCD touch screen.
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Man, they make a lot of nice cases it turns out...
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | I still have my XA1 lovingly boxed up with all my other gear from the move. I just love it too much to get rid of it.
I also have a like-new A1 that I'm going to gut and turn into an HTPC. It's good-sized, so plenty of room for a PSU and hard drive, and good ventilation. I like the form factor though and the case is pretty nice. It'll take a little fabrication, but I just cant seem to find an htpc case I like. If it goes well, it might eventually do the same with the XA1. |
All right, you guys have grabbed me off the ledge and I've decided to keep the HD-XA1 in place for now. But I have to say that the idea of using the case for a HTPC down the road is really an awesome idea! Despite my publicly stated hatred of HTPC's I suspect that I will wind up building one down the road. I've looked at cases and the only ones I have found remotely acceptable cost over $300. The HD-XA1 case is perfect, and also better looking than anything I have seen in stores.
It's certainly not worth selling because I looked at eBay and the last one that sold (and the only one) in the past three months went for $29.99. This is well below the price threshold at which I sell anything on eBay. |
That's exactly the boat I'm in. It's worth so little, we may as well just hang onto it for the time being. I thought up picking up an A35 because it was the last/best and bitstreams HD audio, but they're still $50-100 plus shipping, usually with a few discs, and I don't feel like sinking that much into one. I keep hoping I'll run into a local one for $20 or something, but I haven't seen one, yet.
I feel exactly the same way you do about HTPC, Craig. I definitely wouldn't want one as my main media playback device, but you can just do too many cool things with one for me to stay away from it entirely. But, I have zero interest in blowing a grand on an HTPC, so a $500 case is a non-starter for me.
The main problem with all the mainstream HTPC cases I've seen is that they just do so much, and they're all (IMHO) just not that attractive. Even if they're aluminum, they all look a little... Chinese... Or Korean... In some way or another. I don't need a bunch of USB ports, FireWire ports, card readers, or a touch display all tacked on the front, and I sure as hell don't need a volume knob! My HTPC is a source, not a router/controller!
Looking at Newegg, I do really like the Streacom extruded aluminum fanless chassis with a slot-load, but they're $340 and I assume would be very limiting as to what you could put in it. Probably more for an audio source where you don't care about a video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5FY1PR7313
This is why I keep coming back to the throwaway Toshiba HD-A1. There's already a mount setup for the optical drive, the design is simple mechanically, it has an IEC power connector already on the back, and it should be very easy to find the room to mount a small PSU, mini-ITX board, and an SSD in there.
The big concern I have with using the XA1 for a donor (besides the fact that I love it, and will have a hard time tearing into it) is that the logic for the motorized door and eject mechanism is probably all on the main board, and well beyond my capability to modify/reuse... Unless it's USB or something. I know those Toshibas did run a version of Linux. You can probably handle it Craig, but it's probably way beyond me.
Cheers,
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Good idea for a case. I'll have to look into it when the time comes.
For a cheap htpc don't forget about Raspberry Pi. I have not checked it out but it can run xbmc. Also Windows 10 will be free for it.
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | Good idea for a case. I'll have to look into it when the time comes.
For a cheap htpc don't forget about Raspberry Pi. I have not checked it out but it can run xbmc. Also Windows 10 will be free for it. |
When last I looked at the Raspberry Pi (probably a year ago or more) it could not handle HD audio. If it can't by now, I would think newer versions will surely have the power. This is what I am hoping because I'd like to build my first HTPC on a Raspberry Pi.
Another huge problem for me with the HTPC running XBMC was (and I think still is) that it's unable to play back BD .iso files. So for me XBMC already kills the deal with no ISO for BD support. I had read that they were working on an independent engine to play back BD with ISO support, but I have no idea where that stands now.
I hadn't heard about Windows 10 being free on the platform. That's cool for when these are used in impoverished areas of the world to grant more people access to www, but for HTPC I want to be running Linux.
Anybody can easily run Linux now on a HTPC by using XBMC (Kodi). Just read the instructions and get Kodi on your USB stick using a Windows machine or a MAC. Put the USB stick into your computer and enable booting to said USB in your HTPC Bios settings. Usually XBMC boots up and you are good to go.
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| ecrabb wrote: | I feel exactly the same way you do about HTPC, Craig. I definitely wouldn't want one as my main media playback device, but you can just do too many cool things with one for me to stay away from it entirely. But, I have zero interest in blowing a grand on an HTPC, so a $500 case is a non-starter for me.
The main problem with all the mainstream HTPC cases I've seen is that they just do so much, and they're all (IMHO) just not that attractive. Even if they're aluminum, they all look a little... Chinese... Or Korean... In some way or another. I don't need a bunch of USB ports, FireWire ports, card readers, or a touch display all tacked on the front, and I sure as hell don't need a volume knob! My HTPC is a source, not a router/controller! |
I know the cases just look and feel so cheap. You'll have thick aluminum and then buttons that are garbage and all sorts of weird stuff.
When I lived in Berlin, Conrad Electronic had a lot of HTPC cases on the floor so you could actually really inspect what it is you are getting. I never saw one at any price that I was totally happy with either. It's been some time and I am sure things have changed, but there is no way I'd buy a high end case without seeing it first.
| ecrabb wrote: | | This is why I keep coming back to the throwaway Toshiba HD-A1. There's already a mount setup for the optical drive, the design is simple mechanically, it has an IEC power connector already on the back, and it should be very easy to find the room to mount a small PSU, mini-ITX board, and an SSD in there. |
It's a really good idea. The optical drive mounting being in place is just so perfect.
For the boards, get the threaded brass standoffs that are used for motherboards in prefab cases. Drill some holes and then use a tap to cut threads. It will be fun.
| ecrabb wrote: | | The big concern I have with using the XA1 for a donor (besides the fact that I love it, and will have a hard time tearing into it) is that the logic for the motorized door and eject mechanism is probably all on the main board, and well beyond my capability to modify/reuse... Unless it's USB or something. I know those Toshibas did run a version of Linux. You can probably handle it Craig, but it's probably way beyond me. |
There may not be much salvageable there in terms of controls for me either. That said, I think it would be pretty easy to rig up something new to operate the door motor. I'll worry about that later, but I will share the info if I ever do it.
The other option would be to add a spring and just make it manually operated.
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Let the baby have his bottle!!
http://www.hifiberry.com/dacplus
You can also buy a S/PDIF board and VGA board.
http://www.buyapi.ca/product-category/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-accessories/
Till I saw the guy attaching the DAC board, I didn't realize just how small the Raspberrypi is.
I tried briefly to get BD to work with Ubuntu and gave up. I will revisit it in the near future, as I prefer Linux. Honestly, I have found that a HTPC is easier with Windows as it is easier to find working software including graphics drivers that are more feature rich. With Win 10 being free on RP, it might be the better play. I am going to get the free Win 10 upgrade on the computer that is sitting in the closet gathering dust.
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All right nanny, how does this help me. It's just an add on board that allows analog two channel output that is "high quality." I want HD audio through HDMI. Is there a model that can do that yet that you've seen?
| Spanky Ham wrote: | http://www.buyapi.ca/product-category/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-accessories/
Till I saw the guy attaching the DAC board, I didn't realize just how small the Raspberrypi is. |
Yeah, it's very tiny. A little bigger than a credit card and only about 1/2 - 3/4 inches thick with all the connectors.
The thing was developed to use in 3rd world countries and other impoverished areas to allow people with little wealth have access to an actual computer. It is as bare bones as you can get, but it's a whole computer on a tiny little board. Typically just a USB flash drive will be connected for the operating system and that's it.
| Spanky Ham wrote: | | I tried briefly to get BD to work with Ubuntu and gave up. I will revisit it in the near future, as I prefer Linux. Honestly, I have found that a HTPC is easier with Windows as it is easier to find working software including graphics drivers that are more feature rich. With Win 10 being free on RP, it might be the better play. I am going to get the free Win 10 upgrade on the computer that is sitting in the closet gathering dust. |
No doubt the first initial setup of the system will probably be easier with Windows. But than you are running Windows and drivers and updates and all sorts of things that screw something up as you use the machine. Not to mention virus issues and other quirky Windows chit.
However, with the Raspberrypi, there are already compiled versions of XBMC that work perfectly with it so it is totally plug and play. Just put your USB stick into a Windows or MAC and install the version of XBMC onto the USB card. Slap the card in the Raspberrypi and you are usually ready to go. It's like 20 minutes to get everything running.
I'm running SPMC on my Amazon Fire TV and it was so easy to setup it was ridiculous.
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Not seeing anything regarding HDMI except for a HDMI input module, but I haven't researched it.
I agree about Windows, but as you said earlier you have to worry about BD playback. I have no interest in using the HTPC for internet, so virus and the like should be a non-issue.
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | Not seeing anything regarding HDMI except for a HDMI input module, but I haven't researched it.
I agree about Windows, but as you said earlier you have to worry about BD playback. I have no interest in using the HTPC for internet, so virus and the like should be a non-issue. |
Heck man, viruses come from everywhere. Streaming off my server, a friend's USB stick with photos, lord knows. Never say never on that one. Granted, if all you have is a pretty bare Windows OS on a USB stick it wouldn't be that difficult to format and reinstall, but it's just more hassle related to HTPC.
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...suddenly I am getting a strong urge to rip open my XA1
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