CurtPalme.com Home Theater Forum

km987654 · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:19 am Post subject:

What is the version of control firmware on your control board and RWI chip on both sets?

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:27 am Post subject:

given that there is a 5 year difference in age between the BG 808 and the Cine8 my concern would be compatibility of parts between the two projectors, although essentially the boards look the same I do not know if the later model would have parts/boards which would not be suitable, the only reason I moved (up)? to the Cine 8 was the fact that the tubes on the BG 808 were showing signs of wear and the green tube tended to soften in focus after a few hours running, and the convergence would drift, so I thought a set with brand new tubes would be the go, I suppose one consideration is the fact that the 808 has 13000 on the chassis whereas the Cine has 20000, the only major difference is the tube condition, and of course the drifting convergence on green on the 808.
As attractive a proposition the Cine 8 was with the LIMO facility (which as it turns out is a non event as I am running RGB through a LUMAGEN scaler anyway.
if I were to swap the guns across to the 808 can I use the 808's neckboards or would the current neckboards on the Cine have to go with the tubes?
Beyond it only being a thought at this point in time any other suggestions would be more than welcome

km987654 · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:36 am Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

km987654 · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:01 am Post subject:

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:57 am Post subject:

Here are the board numbers from both sets:

Starting in both cases I have identified boards 1 & 2 by name which I have called 1 & 2 but have not included the voltage board(the one with the Jumpers on.

BARCO BG 808

1. DIAGNOSTIC BOARD R762506

2. POWER SUPPLY R7621705

BOARD 3 R7621745

BOARD 4 R7617481

BOARD 5 R762105.5

BOARD 6 R7622685 (ALSO NUMBER ACROSS 2 CHIPS =R7622268 S)

BOARD 7 R7622675

BOARD 8 R762503
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CINE 8

1. DIAGNOSTIC BOARD R769073

2. POWER SUPPLY R7621706

BOARD 3 R762720

BOARD 4 (CANNOT FIND A NUMBER)

BOARD 5 R7621055

BOARD 6 R762808

BOARD 7 R7622675

BOARD 8 R7625035
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dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:29 am Post subject:

i do not know which is the control board or what the control board and RWI chip is

km987654 · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:35 am Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

Im quite sure the set can be made to work, but id love to know if it worked prior to him buying it. We may never know.

Doesnt the 808 have 180DVB tubes? They cant be used in the place of P16s, youll never get it to focus. I want to know the exact numbers on those tubes in that Cine 8 though!!

I dont celebrate it Keith, but it was bloody good to have a day off anyway!! How about you?

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:16 am Post subject:

The RWI CHIP NUMBERS:

BARCO CINE 8 =RC 5 VER 6.01

808 GRAPHICS = RWI VER 5.06
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BARCO CINE 8 TUBE INFORMATION

RED =BARCO P16LNP07RJA

GREEN = NO INFORMATION STICKER PRESENT

BLUE = PANASONIC P16LNP07BMB

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:24 am Post subject:

The information on the BRCOGRAPHICS 808 shows that they are all BARCO tubes and as you said they are in fact all 180 designated tubes

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:42 am Post subject:

This is the original advert on ebay from the seller:

It won't tell you a great deal, except to say that the fact that he bought it from Curt suggested to me that it would be an OK set to buy
Trevor
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Unit was purchased from Curt Palme four years ago. Unit is silver over blue combination. The unit has 20,000 hours on it. Curt went over this unit with a fine comb and replaced alot of Barco's gremlins for the unit. He also fitted three brand new NEC tubes. I bought some HD145 colour corrected lenses. I bought an adaptor bracket kit for it but got sent to a wrong address and was too expensive to make another purchase. The unit has only been fired up twice to test and do a quick focus. It has been sitting in my spare room for over four years and just has to go! The unit has some wear on it. The keypad door is broken. The top case has a crack at the rear. I was going to have the case professionally repaired and spray painted black. Money never presented itself to do this, so it is how I received it. Shipping from America, the door vibrated loose and disconnected and broke. And its believed this is how the crack at the rear of the case happened. The Cine8 badge isnt attached to the lid. Also, there were screws missing from the case when I received it. I had every intention of refurbishing the set, so this wasnt fixed immediately.

*** Edit; I re-read the ad and its probably not entirely obvious, but thought i'd mention it. The tubes are still brand new. There is less than thirty minutes on them. I simply turned it on to see it worked, watched a blu-ray and calibrated it as it played. I literally bought and shelved this unit. I was planning on buying my own place and hanging it, but that never eventuated. The lenses that came with the unit originally were HD8's I believe? They have no filtering on them. They arent the best lenses I have seen, but I always had the intention of fitting the HD145's. I had the HD8's on when i fired the unit up to test it was working and it looked great. Anyway...

Given the nature of this beast, shipping is not something I want to entertain unless its a fair offer. I am willing to help lifting this thing into a car/ute/van at both ends... always keen to help where I can.

I would love to see it fired up complete. Such a shame to get rid of this. I simply need the money and it has to go. I have been putting it off for some time now. There is just no room for it in my new home.

Hulio · Joined: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 494 Location: Belgium

Someone messed up that projector big time. Those tube are LC tubes and cine 8 (808) is a AC machine.
Even not all boards are genuine Cine 8.

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:37 pm Post subject:

bugger, this saga seems to be going from bad to worse, if you have not already done so, above is the ebay information from the seller that prompted me to buy it.

Thanks for the input Hulio.

redfox001 · Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:53 pm Post subject:

To Case and Keith,

If you have read Hulio's post and he is correct then it would explain the focus problem,
your thoughts would be appreciated to see if you both concur with Hulio's assessment of the situation, and if he is correct, what if any would be the next move.......that is of course if there is any next move, and indeed if Hulio is right, then there would be no point in putting these "new tubes" into the BG 808 would there?.
We would in fact have 2 separate issues here 1. A major optical problem and 2. the electronic shut down of the Cine 8

redfox001 · Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands

But he can focus the tubes at 100. So no optical problem I think.

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:57 pm Post subject:

The focus is almost (but definitely not tight enough) at ZERO not 100

redfox001 · Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands

dentree · Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:13 pm Post subject:

Point taken redfox, and as my knowledge of this subject is so limited I really do appreciate everybodys input and thoughts, because without such great interest and support I would have shot myself by now just from pure frustration, but it you guys that keep me optimistic about a reasonable solution and outcome from what I termed in my first post as a 'disaster"