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Zubik
Joined: 10 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:00 am Post subject: NEC 9PG Plus or NEC XG |
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Does anyone in the dfw area know how to
Setup a nec9pg plus or a necxg?
If so let me know. My cell is 817-403-4037
Or you can email me back here. Need some
Help
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Mr. Green
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1394
Location: Calgary
TV/Projector: Marquee 9501LC / NEC 9PG+
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:59 am Post subject: |
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I've always used the setup guide on the forum and it's always worked really well. Takes about 3 hours the first time. NEC's take longer than say a Marquee as you have so much control.
http://www.curtpalme.com/CRTSetupGuide.shtm
Biggest piece of advice I can give is try and get a perfect image with the mechanical setup. Don't rely on the electronic adjustments to help too much as it taxes the machine and seems to go out of convergence more often (constant tweaking). If you have the mechanical setup near perfect you should only have to lightly tweak here or there.
Good luck. Seems daunting, but if you follow the setup guide and then do it 2-3 times all the way through, by the time you get to round 3 it should only take about 20 min. Each time you'll adjust less and less.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:03 am Post subject: |
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They are both very simular, and quite easy when you know what everything does.
Biggest difference is the Plus uses magnets to center the rasters, where as the XTRA and XG use an electronic coil intergrated into the deflection yoke in the place of the manually adjusted magnets.
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010
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Location: Budapest, Hungary
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | They are both very simular, and quite easy when you know what everything does.
Biggest difference is the Plus uses magnets to center the rasters, where as the XTRA and XG use an electronic coil intergrated into the deflection yoke in the place of the manually adjusted magnets. |
Case, none of the PG xtras had electronic raster centering I had here.
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redfox001
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:04 am Post subject: |
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The runco 933 I once had also needed to the raster to manual be set. I like that solution better because using a coil takes again more current to achieve the same. I like a projector with as much manual setup as possible 
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| gjaky wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | They are both very simular, and quite easy when you know what everything does.
Biggest difference is the Plus uses magnets to center the rasters, where as the XTRA and XG use an electronic coil intergrated into the deflection yoke in the place of the manually adjusted magnets. |
Case, none of the PG xtras had electronic raster centering I had here. |
The one Aussie_Al has does.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| redfox001 wrote: | | The runco 933 I once had also needed to the raster to manual be set. I like that solution better because using a coil takes again more current to achieve the same. I like a projector with as much manual setup as possible |
It really seems to have very little affect on the stability of my XG, if any at all. The machine stays very stable and basically right where i leave it for as long as i leave it, hot or cold.
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010
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Location: Budapest, Hungary
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | gjaky wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | They are both very simular, and quite easy when you know what everything does.
Biggest difference is the Plus uses magnets to center the rasters, where as the XTRA and XG use an electronic coil intergrated into the deflection yoke in the place of the manually adjusted magnets. |
Case, none of the PG xtras had electronic raster centering I had here. |
The one Aussie_Al has does. |
Then it must be a PG6200A, the latest version that was manufactured until mid '98 or so, I've heard that those machines have slightly different DEF boards too and came with the white HD144s, I always wanted one of those 
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gjaky
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Location: Budapest, Hungary
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | redfox001 wrote: | | The runco 933 I once had also needed to the raster to manual be set. I like that solution better because using a coil takes again more current to achieve the same. I like a projector with as much manual setup as possible |
It really seems to have very little affect on the stability of my XG, if any at all. The machine stays very stable and basically right where i leave it for as long as i leave it, hot or cold. |
Good for you, I rarely find mine where it was left, sometimes after a good hour of use it drifts away (again), and also gets out of focus (but that's not an unusual behaviour on these LCs as it seems). Apart from the LC, I'm missing my PG xtra 
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| gjaky wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | gjaky wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | They are both very simular, and quite easy when you know what everything does.
Biggest difference is the Plus uses magnets to center the rasters, where as the XTRA and XG use an electronic coil intergrated into the deflection yoke in the place of the manually adjusted magnets. |
Case, none of the PG xtras had electronic raster centering I had here. |
The one Aussie_Al has does. |
Then it must be a PG6200A, the latest version that was manufactured until mid '98 or so, I've heard that those machines have slightly different DEF boards too and came with the white HD144s, I always wanted one of those |
Its a 9200
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| gjaky wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | redfox001 wrote: | | The runco 933 I once had also needed to the raster to manual be set. I like that solution better because using a coil takes again more current to achieve the same. I like a projector with as much manual setup as possible |
It really seems to have very little affect on the stability of my XG, if any at all. The machine stays very stable and basically right where i leave it for as long as i leave it, hot or cold. |
Good for you, I rarely find mine where it was left, sometimes after a good hour of use it drifts away (again), and also gets out of focus (but that's not an unusual behaviour on these LCs as it seems). Apart from the LC, I'm missing my PG xtra |
I havent put it back together with the LC housings yet, but that will have no affect on electronics either way.
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010
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Location: Budapest, Hungary
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | gjaky wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | redfox001 wrote: | | The runco 933 I once had also needed to the raster to manual be set. I like that solution better because using a coil takes again more current to achieve the same. I like a projector with as much manual setup as possible |
It really seems to have very little affect on the stability of my XG, if any at all. The machine stays very stable and basically right where i leave it for as long as i leave it, hot or cold. |
Good for you, I rarely find mine where it was left, sometimes after a good hour of use it drifts away (again), and also gets out of focus (but that's not an unusual behaviour on these LCs as it seems). Apart from the LC, I'm missing my PG xtra |
I havent put it back together with the LC housings yet, but that will have no affect on electronics either way. |
The focus drift is an optical issue.
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Zubik
Joined: 10 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Can or of you guys give me call. My pj was
Fine. I was running a nec 9pg plus with
Hd fury and a cressindo unit taking the
Signal from my blue ray to 5bnc. I unplugged
The cressindo to clean up wires and now
I get a message H-frequecy over limit
Cannot input signal and on the screen
I horizontal rolling lines with the image of
My blue ray in the back round. What could
It be? Any input would be helpful. Please
Let met me know. My cell is also 817-403-4037
Thanks
Joseph
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AnalogRocks
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Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 26706
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TV/Projector: Sony 1252Q, AMPRO 4000G
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Zubik wrote: | Can or of you guys give me call. My pj was
Fine. I was running a nec 9pg plus with
Hd fury and a cressindo unit taking the
Signal from my blue ray to 5bnc. I unplugged
The cressindo to clean up wires and now
I get a message H-frequecy over limit
Cannot input signal and on the screen
I horizontal rolling lines with the image of
My blue ray in the back round. What could
It be? Any input would be helpful. Please
Let met me know. My cell is also 817-403-4037
Thanks
Joseph |
Hi Joseph, your Bluray player probably reset its output to 1080p. If you can see through the mess to reset it to 1080i or 720p which ever you were running before it will likely fix the issue.
Alternatively you can hook up the yellow video cable to your TV and see the Blurays menu that way and reset the output resolution.
Also make sure 24hz is turned OFF in the blurays menu
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Zubik
Joined: 10 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:19 am Post subject: |
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okay I got pic back but on my 5 bnc cables I have red green blue hoz vertical cable. when I plug the vertical cable the pj goes crazy. When I unplug it it goes back to a pic. What could be wrong?
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AnalogRocks
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Did you change any settings on the Cresendo box?
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Is there a switch on there for H+V and separate sync?
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