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Marquee 9500: are those scanlines?

 
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karmat63



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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 12:00 am    Post subject: Marquee 9500: are those scanlines?

Hi everybody,
yesterday I swapped the HVPS just to test if could get rid of very annoying arcing. In doing so I decided to run a complete reset and redo a complete setup from scratch. Well, the arcing went away (I supposed it came from the HV lead and maybe I was right) and I can't complain about the new set up (it resolves perfectly 1080p60).

There's one thing I'm not sure about: even from my seating position (about 10 feet away) I can see faint, horizontal lines, especially noticeable on white background (the screen is 16/9, 90 inches Horizontal). I wonder if those are only scanlines and I can see them as I have enhanced my set up...

These are a couple of pics (I boosted the contrast in PS to make the lines clearer)



https://www.dropbox.com/s/gqplo1ocbgu8ply/scanlines2.jpg


https://www.dropbox.com/s/2i8x2q81jly2ust/Scanlines1.jpg


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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 12:12 am    Post subject:

What is your video chain and cable source. That could be a bad cable maybe.
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Nashou66



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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 12:16 am    Post subject:

Yeah its not Scan Lines.


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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 12:30 am    Post subject:

I use an HTPC (i54440, Nvidia geforce 660 2GB, 8 GB ram) running Jriver mediaplayer, and MadVR video renderer (actually state of art on par with radiance). From Nvidia graphic card I go to the Moome card v3 by a 10 m (30 ft) HDMI cable (1080p48, 1080p50, 1080p60, 800p72, depending on sources).
Tried to swap cable (I have a spare one) but it's the same.
Maybe I've mess something with custom timings on Nvidia card..?
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 1:21 am    Post subject:

Just to be sure, I tested the HDMI cable with a 1080p TV set, and it's perfect. Looked also at custom timings on the Nvidia cards: nothing seems wrong.. It' weird... any idea?

Edit: even if I run the projector standalone (with nothing connected) I see the same Horizontal lines
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 1:44 am    Post subject:

Have you ever cleaned the CLM Chips? Might be some artifacts from bad connection of the Chips especially U7 on the Deflection Processor board.

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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 1:45 am    Post subject:

karmat63 wrote:
Just to be sure, I tested the HDMI cable with a 1080p TV set, and it's perfect. Looked also at custom timings on the Nvidia cards: nothing seems wrong.. It' weird... any idea?

Edit: even if I run the projector standalone (with nothing connected) I see the same Horizontal lines


Have you tried re-seating the moome card?

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 1:54 am    Post subject:

Tomorrow I'll try both your suggestions...
It's too late here in Italy to go on...
Thanks a lot for your help...
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 1:55 am    Post subject:

Tomorrow I'll try both your suggestions...
It's too late here in Italy to go on...
Thanks a lot for your help...
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:37 am    Post subject:

Saw scan lines on G90 at 1080p60 once...
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:42 am    Post subject:

Ok, found it: it's a cable, just not HDMI but the power cable! Easier than I thought...
Thanks Nashou and Analog, I appreciate your kind help.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 1:09 pm    Post subject:

karmat63 wrote:
Ok, found it: it's a cable, just not HDMI but the power cable! Easier than I thought...
Thanks Nashou and Analog, I appreciate your kind help.


What happen to the cable?

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 6:39 pm    Post subject:

Don't know. It was not the original cable but just one I had at home. Maybe it is a bad quality cable/connector.
Anyway, switching the cable with another one get quite completely rid of the horizontal line (if I look at the screen from less then 3 feet I can still see them).
Don't know if there's a problem of electronic/electromagnetic interference inside my home. Maybe it is..
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 6:42 pm    Post subject:

karmat63 wrote:
Don't know. It was not the original cable but just one I had at home. Maybe it is a bad quality cable/connector.
Anyway, switching the cable with another one get quite completely rid of the horizontal line (if I look at the screen from less then 3 feet I can still see them).
Don't know if there's a problem of electronic/electromagnetic interference inside my home. Maybe it is..


Maybe the connector of that cable was too loose for the projector.

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