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thewolfman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:37 pm Post subject: Next generation Darbee.. |
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I know it'll be expensive, but want one all the same. Will it do custom resolution you think? What cost are we talking about? I believe it was shown @ CEDIA recently. Bottom line - I want one!
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Which product are you referring to? Some of the new Lumagen products have Darbee processing built in - the 20xx, I think… So with those, you'll get all the same custom resolution fine-tuning you get with the Lumagen category of product. Open up your wallet!
If you're referring to the higher-end Darbee product - the Fidelio - I doubt that will have Lumagen-style custom resolutions. The price will probably be too high to justify the feature set. Honestly, I think they were floating the idea for what at the time was just the beginnings of the product, to gauge interest.
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thewolfman
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ElTopo
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:25 am Post subject: |
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A CRT should not and will not look like a digital. Why should it ?
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thewolfman
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:29 am Post subject: |
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If it gets to be more sharp like a digital I mean. Other than tinkering and perfecting the performance that way, there are very few things left that could have a substantial impact on the image, and take it to another level, one being the new lenses that I got, the other would be MP boards coming up. With the exception of LUG's in a Marquee, Darbee is the next level and then there is none.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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If you prefer the digital look go buy a digital projector. I hope no CRT will ever look digital no matter how manipulated signal you feed it with.
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ecrabb
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Nothing is going to make CRT "more sharp" without adding ringing-inducing edge-enhancement. However, I think what wolfman could be talking about is increasing the apparent contrast in the image. Since CRT's biggest shortcoming is ANSI contrast, Darbee-style processing may be of interest to some.
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thewolfman
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, you a right I guess. But a subtle use of Darbee would have been interesting to see how that would look. Like 5-10 % only. The cost is to high anyway so it's better to save up for a used JVC.. only, there are none.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | Nothing is going to make CRT "more sharp" without adding ringing-inducing edge-enhancement. However, I think what wolfman could be talking about is increasing the apparent contrast in the image. Since CRT's biggest shortcoming is ANSI contrast, Darbee-style processing may be of interest to some.
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And much of the ansi contrast is related to bandwidth and tube surface not used, and i have a hard time see any sharpness overcome that.
One of the most cool features with a CRT is that its possible to display a image with minimum of digital manipulation.
At least that is what i look for with CRT, and one of the big negatives with digital is that it always needs quite a lot of CMS to get it right. No matter if its a factory preset or a external CMS unit like Lumagen.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | Yeah, you a right I guess. But a suddle use of Darbee would have been interesting to see how that would look. Like 5-10 % only. The cost is to high anyway so it's better to save up for a used JVC.. only, there are none. |
Buy the OPPO 103D then you can play with it, or the expencive solution is the new Lumagen series.
But again i think its meaningless to use time and spend money playing with it if the JVC look is your goal, it wont happen with a CRT.
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thewolfman
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I think I'm good with what I've got actually. It's easy to get carried away and get more stuff you really don't need. Next month I I'll get the 11.1 speaker system shipped over and the hardware will be in place after saving up for like 2 years. Half of the gear is resting in a store in another city and will make the last payment than. I got sidetracked with other things I just had to have so It's been taking longer than expected. A Panasonic Plasma (for 3D) might be a better solution as I only got a 28 inch CRT Panasonic now.
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