CurtPalme.com Home Theater Forum

matt697845 · Joined: 25 May 2013 Posts: 39

I'm looking for 2 of the darker "correct" green C-elements for my G90s, how much is that going to set me back? Who has them?

Thanks!

-Matt

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

PM Sent

CIR Engineering · Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:33 pm Post subject:

I have more than I need right now if you need any or just one.

Craig

matt697845 · Joined: 25 May 2013 Posts: 39

Nash, PM sent.

stridsvognen · Guest

will the SONY light green C elements be better for REC 601.?

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

matt697845 · Joined: 25 May 2013 Posts: 39

No expert here, but Sony went with a lighter green C-element that favored light output over color accuracy. I'm not one that cares much about "absolute color accuracy", as long as black levels and contrast is good and there's little to no "crush" on either end. But with the stock light green C, greens will be too yellow, changing to the darker one should yield an image with "nicer" colors.

See
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=237109

And
http://www.avsforum.com/t/693126/sony-g90-c-element-comparison

Craig of CIR Engineering would be the one to ask about that for a definitive answer.[/quote]

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

PM Sent. I got the two you need.

Nashou

CIR Engineering · Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:31 pm Post subject:

CIR Engineering · Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:32 pm Post subject:

Also, I have piles of green celements right now if anyone needs them.

craigr

winny · Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:59 pm Post subject:

CIR Engineering · Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:05 pm Post subject:

I have lots of both light and dark green celements.

They will fit any 9" LC machine and also 8" Marquee LC machines.

The dark greens are $195 and the light greens are $25.

craigr

winny · Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject:

Hmm, 1/7 of what Curt charges, assuming same price for red and green. Big question is, do I shell out another 195 USD before the C-element swap in order to not have to live with the constant feeling that I could have had even darker greens and without having to tare it apart again?

CIR Engineering · Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:21 pm Post subject:

It's not just about greens... any color that has any green in it is impacted. Basically the entire color gamut with the exception of pure blue and pure red (or any color on the exact coordinates between pure red and blue) will be under saturated without the correct green celement. So your entire color gamut is under saturated and shifted away from green without the correct green. It makes a big difference to the image and is not subtle.

craigr

stridsvognen · Guest

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject:

winny · Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:23 pm Post subject:

Darn!

Well, the one from Curt should arrive in a few days but I don't know there where two versions available so I don't know if the one I have bought is dark or not. Do you by any chance have like a Lee color filter swatch, or perhaps a RAL or NCS palette/swatch for comparison while keeping an absolute reference that we can relate to? Lee 139 should be ideal.

CIR Engineering · Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:34 pm Post subject:

When you go out to buy a green celement everyone knows you are looking for the dark green one. You can ask Curt what he sent you, but I doubt you are getting a light green celement.

You can tell which one you have easily after it is installed simply by measuring it. If you get nearly perfect Rec709 green than you have the dark green element.

craigr

winny · Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject:

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

Just packaging up the Green's to the OP.

Will get them out today or tomorrow.

nashou