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G2 Wire for P43 Tube on Vision 1

 
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haireez



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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:04 pm    Post subject: G2 Wire for P43 Tube on Vision 1

Hi Guys,

Just need some confirmation here. I bought new P43 tube and did some modification on my VNB by removing resistor R37 and drilled through pin 6. Before I fire up my projector, I just want to be very sure that the G2 wire should be connected to pin 6 instead of usual pin 2.

Can anyone please confirm this is true?

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:12 pm    Post subject:

WAIT !!!

What type of P43?

LCP or LUG?

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject:

Its the PT22-19 green tube and not Lug.
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject:

I dont think the P22 needs to have the VNB drilled out. Are there any other numbers on the markings?

I'm not sure, but don't do anything before someone else confirms.

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:24 pm    Post subject:

This tube is from VDC and manufactured in 2011. For L09 tube, grid 2 is on pin 2 while Pt22-19, grid 2 is on pin 6.

However, I just need someone to verify this before I start firing the projector.

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:43 pm    Post subject:

I sold him this tube and the tube I recall as being unique. The OP doesn't have a multimeter, but I recall that this tube had a special pinout with the G2 on both pins 2 and 6. With a multimeter he could check this for certain pretty quickly to see if there is continuity.

I had forgotten about this odd pinout, and when the OP fired up the projector the image was very dim on the green tube even with G2 at 100. I think some of the G2 voltage was draining through pin 6 R37 on the VNB.

For this tube I think that once pin 6 or R37 is removed from the VNB that the G2 may be connected to either pins 2 or 6. I tried this tube in my G90 and used G2 on pin two and cut the trace to pin 6.

I would suggest getting out a multimeter and testing to see if pin 2 is connected to any other pins on the tube. Don't fry the tube please!

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:21 pm    Post subject:

The OP removed pin 6 from the VNB and connected G2 to pin 2 as on a regular Marquee tube. Everything is good now Smile

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:30 pm    Post subject:

Ok, Just wanted to make sure. Very Happy

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:55 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Ok, Just wanted to make sure. Very Happy

nashou

Naturally!

This was an odd tube and I am not sure why G2 was joined on pins 2/6. I think it was designed for multiple projector applications, but I still don't quite get it.

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject:

I remember reading that on some barco tubes or was it ampro tubes they had pin 6 broke off. I bet that is what this was for. Break off Pin 6 or pin 2 depending on PJ.

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject:

Exactly, I just don't know what the other projector was.

I should have broken off pin 6 before I sent out the tube. But knowing me, I would have broken off the wrong pin and then been screwed Wink

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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:44 pm    Post subject:

same pinout as a lcp09, i am sure as i have a green pt22-19.
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Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:05 am    Post subject:

dvh99 wrote:
same pinout as a lcp09, i am sure as i have a green pt22-19.

No, that was the point of this thread. This was a special run tube that has the G2 on both pin 2 and pin 6. So when he plugged it into the Marquee the G2 voltage was much too low. He had to remove pin 6 from the circuit and all was well in the world again Wink

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject:

Just to update that G2 wire worked on both pin 2 or 6 for this PT22-19 tube from VDC.
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