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freidich
Joined: 15 Oct 2012 Posts: 54 Location: Philadelphia, PA & Providence, RI
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:50 am Post subject: 3D via 2 projectors |
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What would be needed to do 3D video using two projectors, specifically 2 NEC XG 1351LC's? Is 3D worth it/does it really look considering it's not designed to play 3D video?
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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I do it perfectly fine with a RUNCO DTV991 ( which in my case is an XG852 ).
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freidich
Joined: 15 Oct 2012 Posts: 54 Location: Philadelphia, PA & Providence, RI
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How exactly do you do it?
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Using PowerDVD on a computer and using nVIDIA shutter glasses. There is almost no flicker that i can see at 72Hz, and the nVIDIA glasses dont seem to make much difference to the brightness. ( its plenty bright enough )
I use the RGB-HV input for it, and run the res at 1280x720p 72Hz. I get slight ghosting at the bottom edge in 16:9 movies, 2.35:1 movies there is none. Wont matter what refresh i run cause the green decay rate is a touch slow, and 65Hz is the lowest itll kick in the shutter glasses.
If youre blending 2 XGs id expect youll get abit of a ghosting issue doing it the way i do, but if youre stacked you might be fine, although stacked you may as well go polarised.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TV/Projector: Sony 1252Q, AMPRO 4000G
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | Using PowerDVD on a computer and using nVIDIA shutter glasses. There is almost no flicker that i can see at 72Hz, and the nVIDIA glasses dont seem to make much difference to the brightness. ( its plenty bright enough )
I use the RGB-HV input for it, and run the res at 1280x720p 72Hz. I get slight ghosting at the bottom edge in 16:9 movies, 2.35:1 movies there is none. Wont matter what refresh i run cause the green decay rate is a touch slow, and 65Hz is the lowest itll kick in the shutter glasses.
If youre blending 2 XGs id expect youll get abit of a ghosting issue doing it the way i do, but if youre stacked you might be fine, although stacked you may as well go polarised. |
What type of 3D is it?
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Side by side, i have one movie here in top and bottom but havent watched it yet so cant report on if the ghosting is an issue or not.
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Motobias
Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 163 Location: Osnabrueck, Germany
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with 2 projectors, you can do passive 3d, no problem with ghosting if you have proper maintainance of polarization (circular polarization preferred)
you nee filters in front of the projectors, according 3d glasses and a non-depolarizing screen !
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freidich
Joined: 15 Oct 2012 Posts: 54 Location: Philadelphia, PA & Providence, RI
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Yeah I would like to do polarized 3D. What type of hardware do I need to send the video to both projectors? And for 3D blurays or PS3 games, how do I make sure that the proper polarization is going to each projector? And where can I get the items you mentioned, motobias?
Thanks gentleman.
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Motobias
Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 163 Location: Osnabrueck, Germany
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you can use a computer to separate the streams, nvidia supports 3d playback with separate streams to 2 different projectors.
there are other switchboxes around, which will do the same job but i have no experience with these.
then you'll need polarizing filters and glasses
i tried with 2 dlp projectors and it worked out well, but i am still hunting for a proper screen !
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freidich
Joined: 15 Oct 2012 Posts: 54 Location: Philadelphia, PA & Providence, RI
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Awesome! I presume two VGA outputs would be best for this? As far as glasses go, are they the same as the RealdD 3D glasses they give out in movie theaters?
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Motobias
Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 163 Location: Osnabrueck, Germany
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yeah, realD should be circular polarized, just like some passive 3d television glasses !
make sure you get proper filters to get the best channel separation possible.
my filters used to testing are linear and not very practical, but i might use the frame and get some circular filters soon.
anyone knows a good supplier for sheets of circular polarization filters ?
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dvh99
Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland
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dvh99
Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland
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i guess you mean a stack and not a blend?
i wonder what happens with the 3d image at the blend zone?
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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Have to be, cant polarize with 2 projectors if you blend, youd need 4.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Why not do 8 for that extra brightness?
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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16 would be the go, 4 for each quadrant. On a 72 inch high gain screen so youre not over working the tubes....
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | 16 would be the go, 4 for each quadrant. On a 72 inch high gain screen so youre not over working the tubes.... |
HAHAH! 16 on a 15 gain 72" screen. Let me get my Ray Bans
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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Yeah mate, contrast on zero, brightness on zero, tubes will last forever
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2802 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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But don't forget that you'd need a private powerplant
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Way ahead of ya Gabor, allready got one
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