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Jeremy112
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:11 am Post subject: What components need replacement to restore an NEC XG? |
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I am curious as to what components should be replaced in a NEC XG projector to electronically bring it back to brand new condition.
I know capacitors are always something that should be replaced, but what about resistors, transistors, diodes?? Any of that?
Also, can the fans in the XG be replaced with a quieter fan, instead of modifying them to run at lower RPMs? I know that there are several computer fans that would be dead silent vs whats in the XG.
I am asking these questions because I would like to give my XG1100 a major overhaul before I switch to a 9 inch CRT. I want to experience what this projector operated like when it was new 15 years ago. With the usage its had before me, and since I have owned it, I am sure a refurbishment of the parts would make an improvement, particularly in stability and reliability so there is less of a chance of component failure.
Any advice is appreciated. I wont be starting this until I get my sony Pearl back from Mac, so I have something to use while I am restoring the projector.
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2802 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Well electronics are not like cars, you can't expect much performance gain with random component cahnges, also the boards are not "wearing out", unless the parts are out of their specs any board should perform just like a new, if some components are out of spec, you'll probably notice it.
NEVER, NEVER change fans on a NEC for the sake of noise. This is described here at least hundreds of time NECs are using very high quality fans, you hardly find any better, if you find one which is more quiet then it's blowing much less air, which is not good. The noise of these sets is caused by air turbulance not the fans themselfs, if the noise bothers you then build a hushbox, that's the ultimate solution.
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Jeremy112
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you gjaky for all the tips,
I have to admit though, I find it very very hard to believe that I am hearing wind turbulence from the fans when they sound like they are whining. I have a computer tower with 15 fans in it and I know what wind turbulence sounds like, and its much different than the whine the XG fans produce they rotate at 3100rpms, which I would think should be more than enough for the NEC XG since there are several fans in it as well.
As far as the electronics go, I would have to disagree and say that the machine has gone out of tolerance compared to what it was 15 years ago.
I have had many little issues and I am sure that its related to parts being used up long before I got this thing. I have to do regular touch ups about every 3 or 4 days, which isn't so bad, but when other issues like I had posted last night in another topic, then it tells me the projector can no longer keep itself stable.
The fans... I could compromise on that, though I am willing to bet I could find better fans, now that its 15 years later. The electronics I know are due for an upgrade. You can't just use something for 15 years and expect it to stay exactly the same. That is like thinking the oil in a car never needs a change after a few years of sitting even if you only put a couple hundred miles on the car since its last oil change.
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MikeEby
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 5237 Location: Osceola, Indiana
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Back when XGs were in their heyday lots of folks were doing fan mods. I don't know of any of those projectors that are still running. Is that the reason? I can say for sure but many people have had issues after mods. The ONLY fan I have changed in my XG is the little sucker on the green neck board. That one is loud as hell and from what most people say doesn't do much. I did replace it with a PC fan held in with some cable ties.
As far as caps don't fix it if its not broke.
Mike
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Jeremy112
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| MikeEby wrote: | Back when XGs were in their heyday lots of folks were doing fan mods. I don't know of any of those projectors that are still running. Is that the reason? I can say for sure but many people have had issues after mods. The ONLY fan I have changed in my XG is the little sucker on the green neck board. That one is loud as hell and from what most people say doesn't do much. I did replace it with a PC fan held in with some cable ties.
As far as caps don't fix it if its not broke.
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Mike,
you answered a question I had without me even having to ask it, thats a fan on the green neck board? I noticed it when I was looking at them the other day, and saw that only the green had it.
As far as the caps go, I can't say its not broke, given the issues I have had, even the minor ones, I am confident that it could use some TLC. If the XG was supposed to be the next best thing to a barco 1209s or a G90 (and NEC doesn't mess around on their stuff) I doubt they built it with the intention of it needing to have convergence adjustments at least twice a week.
Can't tell me that after 15 years of usage, storage, usage that the capacitors are fine, sure they may read fine, but the electrolytic fluid in them dries out eventually and can cause unstable voltages.
I can't leave my 90% functional machine at that, 100% is where it should be operating. "eye captain, one of the 8 cylinders ain't firin' but hell with it, we still movin!"
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