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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:36 am Post subject: hi everyone |
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hi every one my name is mark im from the uk. im looking for some help with my Seleco SVT150 CRT Projector that i have just bought. i haven't recieved it yet but i take it i will get some ghosting when i hook it upto The Gen 3 Battery Powered 3D Shutter Theater . so will it need a green p43 phososer bulb
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barclay66
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Sorry, but I think this PJ is a dead end. The Seleco SVT150 accepts Standard Definition interlaced video (576i/480i) only which is far away from the 3D requirements. The only way to display 3D on this device would be with half of its frame rate which would be 25/30Hz per eye. I don't think you will be satisfied with the result. Additionally the light output would be reduced significantly and the SVT150 isn't on the list of high lumens projectors. So this isn't a matter of the right tube (no P43 tubes for this model were ever made anyway AFAIK) but of deflection, light output and bandwith capabilities.
I think You'd better look for a Barco Graphics 808s, Sony G70, NEC XG or Marquee 8500 in a decent shape to start with...
Regards,
barclay66
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:56 am Post subject: |
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bugger, well i still have an nec vt540g 50-60 hz projector any hope with this
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barclay66
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Nope. If its 50/60Hz it mostly will do SD only.
I'm ignoring the other thread from now onwards...
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: |
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im looking to do something on the cheap as i have just started a family so whats your best advice
cheers
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barclay66
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
This may sound somewhat harsh: Aligning Your goals to Your capabilities. You can't expect getting a good result without any investment.
So in Your case I'd make sure that if I did an investment I'd do it on the right stuff. The projectors I mentioned before are good intermediate level ones (see here: http://www.curtpalme.com/Projector_Rankings.shtm).
Sometimes they show up on eBay and other online sales portals for not too much money. You should verify of course if they are in good shape though regarding overall status, usage hours and tube wear (see here: http://www.curtpalme.com/TubeCondition.shtm). If you find a machine You're interested in You of course can post here and ask for opinions on device model, capabilities, status etc. before spending any money.
Then if You have it You should get familiar with it and plan for the next steps (mounting, accessories, upgrades, modifications etc.).
Each step might involve some investment but as they are done over the time it might be ok (at least that's what I did)...
Regards,
barclay66
P.S.: And please, don't open a new thread for each question. It's the same topic anyway...
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:42 am Post subject: |
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is this a good option for 3d stero veiwing
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS GRAPHICS VIDEO CARD PCI-E 256MB DELL TP073 Dual DVI
3D LCD WIRED SHUTTER GLASSES FOR PC & TV
Infocus DLP
this was my second option,
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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i saw this in products for sale Barco 'Special'
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barclay66
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
This might work if the DLP is capable of 100/120Hz frame rate. You should look up the specifications of the Infocus DLP You mentioned.
Edit: I don't know about the 3D capabilities of the Nvidia card. In any case You would require some 3D capable player software and a Blue Ray player device with 3D compatibility. Not to forget enough processor speed and RAM. I'm not quite convinced of a PC-based solution although it might provide more flexibility. I'd choose a 3D capable stand-alone BD player, connect this via HDMI to a 3D box like the Moome ExtFullHD V3 3D and connect the Projector to its analog output. The 3D glasses would be connected to the Moome's 3D-sync output...
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barclay66
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Hmmm.... What tubes are in the SVT150?? Arent they O7MS Sony tubes?? If so, i have 2 Sony 1001 QM machines here that i have used my Sega Master System stereoscopic 3D LCD shutter glasses on, and they were perfect.
No judder, no anything else, clear as crystal. So if this thing has 07MS tubes, it should react very much like my 1001s do, and it may do what you need it to do....
Just dont expect it to look good if the screen is more than 70 inch.... 
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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cheers for that will have a look
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CasetheCorvetteman
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I should add that the Sega Master System is running progressive signal as a rule, 240p, and in my experience, LCD shutter 3D was perfect considering it was 25 yr old technology...
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Elaine Benes
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | I should add that the Sega Master System is running progressive signal as a rule, 240p, and in my experience, LCD shutter 3D was perfect considering it was 25 yr old technology... |
Nope:
The technology takes advantage of the interlaced video output of contemporary CRT televisions, displaying the left image in the top field and the right image in the bottom field.
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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07MS tubes were can i find these if theres not any in i wont know till i pick it up
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Elaine Benes wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | I should add that the Sega Master System is running progressive signal as a rule, 240p, and in my experience, LCD shutter 3D was perfect considering it was 25 yr old technology... |
Nope:
The technology takes advantage of the interlaced video output of contemporary CRT televisions, displaying the left image in the top field and the right image in the bottom field. |
So why is every single other game on the Sega Master System in 240p? Im not refering to the 3D games here ( of which i have all except Outrun 3D ).... Absolute zero flicker in both 50 and 60 Hz on either my NEC in RGB or the Sonys in S-video or composite, and when using the 3D games, zero flicker again... So that said, it CAN be done on a 15.75kHz display, and done well enough.
I will also add that i was blown away by just how good the Master System's 3D was, i played it for about 4 hours straight on the 120 inch screen, and i didnt have any sort of eye strain or head aches at all.
| muttley wrote: | 07MS tubes were can i find these if theres not any in i wont know till i pick it up
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Your set has Toshiba tubes in it, not to say they wont do the job, cause they probably will, this is not a big ask, but Selecos didnt have the Sony 07MS tubes til the SVP390 model. Probably wont even matter much...
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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so you think its worth a try with my seleco projcetor just run the screen at 70-80in. iam looking at running the The Gen 3 Battery Powered 3D Shutter Theater with it and getting a hdmi lead that gose from my ps3 to the normal red white and yellow on the back of the seleco whitch might upscale a bit.
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Curt Palme
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Just play with the Seleco, it's a good set to learn on if it works. Zero parts out there for it at this point, and poorly made (IMHO), so don't spend any money on it. UNless you get two sets, it will not do 3D or HD.
Frankly, unless you're going for a 9" set with a P43 tube in it, I wouldn't consider CRT for HD. Digitals are brighter, cheaper (and won't last as long), so while there's a few CRTers here doing 3D with their sets, it's not something you'll be able to do on the cheap if you're starting out.
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muttley
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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what do you mean to sets
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A Rogers
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| muttley wrote: | | what do you mean to sets |
"Set(s)" as in the projector itself. I think you should spend a while reading the crt primer/faq. a lot of your questions should be answered there.
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