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larryp
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject: It there a Adjustment or setting possible? |
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I have a Sony 1272 with a 100" 4:3 screen.
I just bought a blue ray dvd player for it.
Some movies are 16:9
Is there any way to make these movies fill the whole screen?
The dvd has a zoom button, but it didn't do anything when I pressed it.
I was watching my first Blue Ray movie if that has anything to do with it.
Just wondering there is some way to fill the screen.
I prefer 4:3 because I use Direct TV and it comes out great
Thank You
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kal
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: It there a Adjustment or setting possible? |
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| larryp wrote: | I have a Sony 1272 with a 100" 4:3 screen.
I just bought a blue ray dvd player for it.
Some movies are 16:9
Is there any way to make these movies fill the whole screen? |
You have 3 options:
1. Butchering the movie by either cutting off part of the sides by using image stretch and blanking on the projector. You'll be missing part of the movie image. Close to half probably.
2. Squishing it horizontally and zoom in using the stretch/size controls on the projector. Everything will look tall and skinny.
3. Watch it the way the director intended which means having black bars on the top and bottom of the screen.
#3 is really the only correct way. Every other way wrecks what the director intended.
| Quote: | | I prefer 4:3 because I use Direct TV and it comes out great |
There are 3 or 4 popular aspect ratio (sizes) of movies with probably dozens more that are used more rarely. Most screens are only one aspect ratio. This means having bars on the screen during many of the movies.
Trying to always fit the screen doesn't make sense. You're trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
It's like trying to make all art fit a certain size frame.
If you make the image fit the screen you end up changing a movie like this:
To look like this:
See all that you're missing?
In the early days of DVD, people complained about the 'black bars' in movies and how they weren't "using their whole TV". So studios (unfortunately) listened and butchered movies by cutting off parts like this (called panning & scanning) which resulted in the whole TV being used but a good portion of the movie was missing. Studios have now learnt to no longer do this as it's completely the wrong thing to do.
Most people recommend picking a screen aspect ratio for the type of movie that you want to 'optimize'.
Another option is to use adjustable masking on the screen.
The fact that it's Blu-ray and not DVD has nothing to do with it.
Read more here:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/aspectratios/widescreenorama.html
http://www.high-techproductions.com/widescreen.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_and_scan
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draganm
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: It there a Adjustment or setting possible? |
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| larryp wrote: | I prefer 4:3 because I use Direct TV and it comes out great
Thank You |
you can prefer 4:3 but no one is filming movies in 4:3. I would expect the majority of "pay TV" to be widescreen as well. If it isn't there's probably a setting in the menu's to make it so. Then replace your screen with a 16:9. You'll still have black bars (small ones ) top and bottom of 2.35 movies but I watched the super bowl last night in 16:9 and it filled the entire screen 52 x 92 inches.
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larryp
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Thanks both of you. Looks like I'll keep my present setup. My HD Direct TV receiver has size options. Fills the screen of HD shows and looks great to me, don't lose much of the picture either.
I don't watch enough dvd's to get a new screen.
Appreciate your replies
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jeffslife
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Make a masking system with royal velvet and then you have it all. Its cheap and easy to do.
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ecrabb
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| larryp wrote: | Thanks both of you. Looks like I'll keep my present setup. My HD Direct TV receiver has size options. Fills the screen of HD shows and looks great to me, don't lose much of the picture either.
I don't watch enough dvd's to get a new screen.
Appreciate your replies |
I'm trying to figure out how you're filling the screen with HD at all. I can see how you may have the Sony set up for SD (480i/p) to fill the screen. But, if you're watching DirecTV and filling the screen, then unless I'm missing something, you're either not watching in HD, or you're somehow stretching the picture vertically to fit.
It's true the DirecTV HD boxes have size options, but this size options work within the output signal, by cropping/zooming the HD input to the output (whatever that is).
Are you sure you're even watching HD? Just out of curiosity, how is the signal getting from your Blu-ray player and DirecTV box to the Sony 1272?
Cheers,
SC
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larryp
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They are Direct tv HD stations. I use 1080I, And yes, I use the feature on the receiver where you can have letterbox, stretch, crop etc.
You can really tell a difference when a station is in hd. I use crop and the screen is filled. I switch it to letterbox to see what's missing, and usually not that much to bother me. I prefer having the screen filled. Looks great IMO.
I have a sony switcher and everything has a breakout cable with 5 ends on each. Not sure what you call it.
Bought a converter Curt recommended to hook up the dvd player to the switcher
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