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Boet
Joined: 10 Jan 2012
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Location: Netherlands
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: Hooking up Playstation 3 to Sony VPH-1272 |
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Hi,
Hopefully I've posted this thread in the right section...
Currently I own a Barco Vision 701 with a quite burned green tube, and a friend of mine offered me a VPH-1272 for only 50 Euros with good tubes, so I'm considering buying that projector.
However, while the 701 has component inputs, the VPH-1272 only has composite and RGBHV.
I've looked into HDMI to RGBHV (VGA) converters, from which I concluded that route would most likely give problems with HDMI protection stuff, and all component to RGBHV (VGA) converters I've came across change the resolution of the input to a user-definable resolution at the output. Is that common for component to RGBHV converters, or even more important: is that a problem?
Basically my question is, how can I affordably (I'm still going to school) hook up my PS3 to a VPH-1272 to use it at 720p/1080i? The Moome Cards look nice, however I can't really afford one. 
Thanks in advance for any thoughts. 
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Curt Palme
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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What's 'affordable' to you? Seriously, there are several ways to do it, but if you want to spend $10 USD, then my suggestions will be limited.
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Boet
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I should have included that. $10 USD indeed isn't very realistic, just for an empty envelope and shipping perhaps. 
Up to somewhere around $80 USD would be affordable for me, to start with. I have more to spend, but if I can get it done for approximately that price and have acceptable quality, I'll be satisfied.
I could just buy a $30 USD component to RBGHV (VGA) converter from China from eBay, but I don't really trust those in terms of image quality. Those are also the ones which convert the video resolution.
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HaydnG90
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Look for a used HD Fury
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Curt Palme
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Both yours and Haydn's options are the way to go. THe HDFury has been blacklisted on eBay and a few other places, so it might be hard to try and find one, but since it's an analog signal, a cheapie component to RGB converter should be fine, with no HDCP issues to worry about.
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gjaky
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Check if you don't have an IFB-12 input card, that could be configured to acccept component signals as well. If you have IFB-11, then you should look for an IFB-12.
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Boet
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. If all goes well, I can check the projector saturday for eventual tube wear and determine whether it has the IFB-12 input card. Do I have to pull the board out to be able to see it's an IFB-12? Is it able to handle 720p? I've seen some discussions about that on forums.
I also got offered another Vision 701 with no noticable wear on the tubes for 50 Euros, however one thing that caught my attention was that two of the tubes have white phosphor, while the red one is pink-ish? Could this be normal, or does this indicate a faulty red tube? Then I might as well buy that one and fix my own 701, and have plenty of spare boards, or simply use the other 701.
There's also a 701s for sale nearby with 9000 hours on it, however the green raster can't be shifted, I've got no clue about its tube wear and I don't know about its price (although they don't want much for it).
Decisions, argh!
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Jeremy112
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Boet wrote: | Thanks. If all goes well, I can check the projector saturday for eventual tube wear and determine whether it has the IFB-12 input card. Do I have to pull the board out to be able to see it's an IFB-12? Is it able to handle 720p? I've seen some discussions about that on forums.
I also got offered another Vision 701 with no noticable wear on the tubes for 50 Euros, however one thing that caught my attention was that two of the tubes have white phosphor, while the red one is pink-ish? Could this be normal, or does this indicate a faulty red tube? Then I might as well buy that one and fix my own 701, and have plenty of spare boards, or simply use the other 701.
There's also a 701s for sale nearby with 9000 hours on it, however the green raster can't be shifted, I've got no clue about its tube wear and I don't know about its price (although they don't want much for it).
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The 1272 will handle 720p nicely, as for the Pinkish red tube you saw in the vision 701, it is most likely a color corrected tube (such as the tubes used in the 1272, which have a pinkish red tube and a green/teal green tube)
The color corrected tube will give you better color accuracy. There is most likely nothing wrong with that tube.
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gjaky
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| Boet wrote: | Thanks. If all goes well, I can check the projector saturday for eventual tube wear and determine whether it has the IFB-12 input card. Do I have to pull the board out to be able to see it's an IFB-12? Is it able to handle 720p? I've seen some discussions about that on forums.
I also got offered another Vision 701 with no noticable wear on the tubes for 50 Euros, however one thing that caught my attention was that two of the tubes have white phosphor, while the red one is pink-ish? Could this be normal, or does this indicate a faulty red tube? Then I might as well buy that one and fix my own 701, and have plenty of spare boards, or simply use the other 701.
There's also a 701s for sale nearby with 9000 hours on it, however the green raster can't be shifted, I've got no clue about its tube wear and I don't know about its price (although they don't want much for it).
Decisions, argh! |
Yes, you have to pull out that card to watch it's board number. I'm not a Sony-pro so I needed to search for the performance of the IFB-12, unfortunately the opinions (thus the experiences) are divided, some say it works at 720P, some say it doesn't, so if you don't have factory IFB-12 then probably it is not worth to dig one up unless it is very cheap.
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Boet
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| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone, I'll pass the information to him... he decided to not sell the projector, but keep it till he leaves home.
Therefore I decided to buy the other Vision 701 with condition 8-9 tubes, and make one good Vision 701 from both of them.
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TheVerge
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | Both yours and Haydn's options are the way to go. THe HDFury has been blacklisted on eBay and a few other places, so it might be hard to try and find one, but since it's an analog signal, a cheapie component to RGB converter should be fine, with no HDCP issues to worry about. |
Had one of these that came with my NEC Xtra, it actually called itself a video processor. The picture quality was disgustingly bad, my 1080i looked more like 480p. After spending hours trying to fix it, hooked my computer up directly to the projector and it was razor sharp. Taa-daa, problem solved.
I would say buyer beware on some of these cheap converters.
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