| Should I swap a Sony 1271 CRT for a Panasonic PT-AE7000 LCD |
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tbsb9595
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: SHOULD I SWAP A SONY 1271 CRT FOR A Panasonic PT-AE7000 LCD |
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I am looking at gaining picture quality, but I don't not necessarily need more brightness so i am considering changing my Sony 1271 CRT (720P) out for a highly rated Panasonic PT-AE7000 ($3000) LCD projector (1080P). It is supposed to be top notch under $4000, but I would like your opinions on the Panasonic projector v.s. the Sony. My screen is a 96" 4:3 FORMAT 1.0 gain that I plan to still use, and I just bought a new Oppo Dvd player. Thanks! 
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Jeremy112
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If you dont mind losing color quality, motion resolution, and the "look" that gives the projector that movie theater feel, then yeah I guess if you like bulb burners you should buy it.
Your the one who is having issues with his new DVD player because you were attempting to use the VGA to component cables on the projector, if that is your reason for replacing the 1271 then that isn't a very good reason.
The benefits of the panasonic would be its small, light, bright, it will have perfect image geometry, and so on. It will also allow you to hook up everything you have without a video processor or transcoder.
You need to decide what you want. If you haven't seen the projector your interested in, in person, I would definitely view it before buying if you have the chance to do so. Basing a projector purchase off of what someone tells you is never a good idea.
I would probably also change the screen to 16:9 if you go with that LCD projector as well, otherwise there is little point in buying it for a 4:3 screen unless that is ALL you view, and if thats the case, then you dont need a HD projector to do that 
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ElTopo
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Go and get yourself a 9 inch CRT with an Oppo Blu-Ray Player.
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dturco
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ElTopo wrote: | Go and get yourself a 9 inch CRT with an Oppo Blu-Ray Player.
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He still would need to buy a HDMI card. So make it easier just buy the HDMI card for the Sony and be done.
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Bucketfoot
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'd do this swap in a heartbeat. In fact I did a very similar swap from a Sony 1270 to JVC RS2 a couple of years ago.
The bottom line is that advantages of many digitals far outweigh the CRT benefits of a projector in this category.
A 9 inch CRT will still blow away pretty much any digital in certain aspects (there are definite legitimate benefits on the digital side as well), but in your case you are talking about a pretty low end CRT that frankly just doesn't compete very well.
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TheVerge
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1080p, full 3d, can take all sorts of digital inputs, brighter... pretty easy choice over a 12xx sony.
That 4:3 screen is gonna look kinda dumb though.
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Curt Palme
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my counter to all the above valid points. Buy a new $3K digital, and it's designed to last 2-3 bulb lives. Most likely during the 3rd bulb life, the set will self destruct.
For $1500-2K, you can buy a retubed Barco 808 or Marquee 8500. 10K hours rating on the tubes, the chassis should last 10 years with minimal if no maintenance.
Cost per hour will still be cheaper than the Panasonic, but you will need to tweak, etc.
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Bucketfoot
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | Most likely during the 3rd bulb life, the set will self destruct. |
This is the only part of your post I would disagree with.
Yes, more digitals than CRTs will have an unrepairable failure by this point, but definitely not the 50% plus that would make a statement of "most likely" to be true.
Otherwise you make perfectly valid counter points.
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ElTopo
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I had an EPSON which died some hours after replacing to the 2nd bulb
Repair was too expensive.....
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Curt Palme
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| Bucketfoot wrote: | | Curt Palme wrote: | | Most likely during the 3rd bulb life, the set will self destruct. |
This is the only part of your post I would disagree with.
Yes, more digitals than CRTs will have an unrepairable failure by this point, but definitely not the 50% plus that would make a statement of "most likely" to be true.
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I'll challenge you to a battle! 
I've talked to many digital customers. Most HT guys will upgrade long before the end of the second bulb life, if they are watching under 1000 hours a year. Many, MANY regular HT users that I've talked to with a bulb projector get 2-3 bulb lives out of their sets, regardless of brand. DLP color wheels and motors die frequently, LCD panels haze out, especially the blues.
You may find working 10 year old digitals out there, but I'll bet they are all on their first or second bulb...
I've got no hard stats, just the people I've talked to, the sales reps of said products, and the few sets I've seen here.
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Spanky Ham
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I will start with have you ever seen a LCD, DLP, or LCOS? Second, I would go with a JVC over a Panny every day of the week. You can get a JVC RS45 for under $3k. As for keeping the Sony or buying a new digital, shouldn't the decision be between a better CRT and a new digital?
One thing needs correction on the digitals and that is perfect uniformity. BS!!!!! I didn't realize how many LCD, LCOS and 3 DLPs weren't perfectly converged. I knew some were off, but I am finding that I think everyone will have misconvergence. Under 1/2 pixel is considered good and I have heard under 1 pixel is considered acceptable. The only digital with perfect convergence is a 1 chip dlp and even those have CA.
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tbsb9595
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | As for keeping the Sony or buying a new digital, shouldn't the decision be between a better CRT and a new digital? |
yes that is what I really meant to say!
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Spanky Ham
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Ok, have you seen a 9" CRT? Have you seen any of the digitals?
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Jeremy112
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | As for keeping the Sony or buying a new digital, shouldn't the decision be between a better CRT and a new digital? |
Exactly Spanky. If you are even thinking about replacing your sony with a new digital, then you should be thinking about getting a nicer CRT or a digital, forget the sony you have.
For what your thinking of spending, you could get a nice projector from curt... and I'll bet his warranty beats out any company that sells and manufactures digitals 
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Bucketfoot
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Curt Palme wrote: | I'll challenge you to a battle!
I've talked to many digital customers. Most HT guys will upgrade long before the end of the second bulb life, if they are watching under 1000 hours a year. Many, MANY regular HT users that I've talked to with a bulb projector get 2-3 bulb lives out of their sets, regardless of brand. DLP color wheels and motors die frequently, LCD panels haze out, especially the blues.
You may find working 10 year old digitals out there, but I'll bet they are all on their first or second bulb...
I've got no hard stats, just the people I've talked to, the sales reps of said products, and the few sets I've seen here. |
Ahh, but upgrading is not self destructing!
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Bucketfoot
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| Jeremy112 wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | | As for keeping the Sony or buying a new digital, shouldn't the decision be between a better CRT and a new digital? |
Exactly Spanky. If you are even thinking about replacing your sony with a new digital, then you should be thinking about getting a nicer CRT or a digital, forget the sony you have.
For what your thinking of spending, you could get a nice projector from curt... and I'll bet his warranty beats out any company that sells and manufactures digitals |
You will get no argument from me here. He should absolutely consider a CRT upgrade and make the best decision for his situation.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | Under 1/2 pixel is considered good and I have heard under 1 pixel is considered acceptable. The only digital with perfect convergence is a 1 chip dlp and even those have CA. |
I couldnt live with that. I dont live with it on a CRT, no way id accept that on a digital...
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ElTopo
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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If picture quality is YOUR choice and you like CRT get a 9 incher for less than 3K.
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tbsb9595
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | Ok, have you seen a 9" CRT? Have you seen any of the digitals? |
No I have not seen a 9" CRT but I would like to. What would the difference be between the Sony 1271 8" I have and a 9" CRT? By the way i got your P.M. but I could not respond due to being a new member of this forum. Thanks.
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ElTopo
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A 9 inch machine is another Universe.
Watched Super8 on my 9 incher and blacks, details and sharpness is from outer space !
NO digital can compare to that !
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