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noos@xp37+
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 464 Location: Berlin/Munich
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: Single projector passiv 3d - Z-Screen |
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Hello,
as you know, there are two ways for passive 3d (non active non shuttering "sun" glasses - like in cinemas):
- using two projectors and polarization filters in front of the projector
- using a z-screen in front of the projector (like cinemas do)
I planned to do the first solution in the future, so I am way behind in building my curved high gain silver screen - because as you know - you need a screen that keeps the light polarization. So it should be a silver like screen, that should be curved because of hotspotting, or you use a rear projection screen that has this specific feature.
But I now got these Z-Screens for CRT monitors:
http://www.mfb-geo.com/spip.php?rubrique83
These tools are rare, and I was looking for them quite some time.
As my silver screen is a distant dream, I did build a reaprojection screen for testing the Z-Screen with a 1272. For 7" AC an 8" LC machines one Z-Screen is fine. With 8" AC or 9" you should use two Z-Screens.
I did test these screens with crt monitors, and as the Barco pdf shows, they have a little more ghosting and are a bit dimmer than shutter glasses solutions. But I was able to use also the cinema glasses from Avatar....
The screens accept the standard 3d sync signal. But, my reaprojection screen does not keep the polarization, so I will get me a different material or build the curvesd silver screen an update the process here.
I guess these screens should also work with digitals that are not polarized like LCDs are (DLP?)...?
The seller has some of them left on the shelves. They cost a fraction of their high 4 digits price in the ninties - and I will ask him if I can post his email here for contact. I will also post that report on AVS and mtbs, but I will give you here an advance for the Z-screens, if the seller clears his shelves.
... I keept my writing short, as I will update my findings when I found a screen material taht keeps polarization.
Regards
Marc
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting concept. I have not seen these before.
craigr
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Tim in Phoenix
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 4409 Location: Phoenix
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Guys
The requirement of a silver lenticular screen will render this awkward for most home users.
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noos@xp37+
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 464 Location: Berlin/Munich
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noos@xp37+
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 464 Location: Berlin/Munich
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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So, I now have permission and details from the seller of these Z-Screens:
mark_frnka@comcast.net
You can write to him, but in the subject you should mention Z-Screens. He is selling medical equipment, so I guess these screens were intended to use in 3D applications in an hospital or clinic, but never were used. He has a couple of these Z-Screens, and they are all brand new an in the original package. They come with cables and controller plus three passive glasses. But you can use the cinema glasses, so I guess these screens a circular polarized. I fear that day when I will have to buy circular polarized sheets for a dual projector setup with CRTs ($$$). Considering this, the condition of the screens, the insane prices some companys (that have probably misses digital revolution) ask for these screens, and that they are rare like henīs teeth - 150$ for one screen is a steal. I am sure the seller will give you two for 250$. He is located in the US, but he is shipping worldwide. He did pack two screens for me in one original package, and shipped it to Germany for 63$.
Ragards
Marc
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