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nick40 · Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 4

I have a Barco 701s and over the last 8 months picture has issues-black and white "bleed" into each other, rest of screen colors okay.

Considering simply getting the JVC DLA-RS60 (or the consumer version).

Question: Is the Barco worth repairing, given back and forth delivery to repair, parts, labor, etc. and if so where to send for repair?

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:14 am Post subject:

It's a modular unit, yuo don't need to send it anywhere. Post a pix of the problem, I have no idea what your trying to describe. ONce you post a pix, I'll be able to figure out what it is, and most parts for the 701s are $0 plus shipping.

km987654 · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:39 am Post subject:

So yes it's worth repairing.

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**Curt Palme** · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:31 pm Post subject:

So you can find another complete working projector for under $100? Good luck with that!

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km987654 · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject:

ES projectors can produce a great video image when dialed in right and that typewriter will work long after your hdd has crashed or your pc is infected with a virus.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:39 pm Post subject:

What's kinda strange is that I've had more inquiries about ES focusing sets in the last 2 months than EM focusing sets. I was setting up a D50 for someone locally, giving it a tweak. 12 years old, 1200 hours on it, 1 owner. Other than focus tweaking and a bit of convergence, it needed nothing, and looked fine.

I am about to buy an NEC 3000 lumen presentation projector for an install, cost is $1000, and we'll see what it looks like for HT. I'll post once I get it in.

nick40 · Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 4

This is a picture of the problem- as posted earlier,I have a Barco 701s and over the last 8 months picture has issues-black and white "bleed" into each other, rest of screen colors okay.

You can see the black and white mottled effect . When watching the black and white areas "bleed" back and forth.

So far it seems about 50/50 in terms of repair versus new purchase.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject:

You're talking about the area in the middle of the screen, right? I have never seen that before on a BArco 70X series, but I have an idea. This might be drifting of the 17 volt test point on the SMPS board. Pull out the SMPS board, find the +17 volt adjustment pot, and fire the set up with the SMPS pulled out (hoping it's floor mounted, you can't do this with the set on the ceiling).

SLIGHTLY rotate the SMPS trimpot back and forth and see if it goes away.

If that doesn't work, then I'm baffled. What input signal are you running to the set, are you sure the source is OK?

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

mc86 · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:04 am Post subject:

Depending on where you are, what you want to spend, and what you want/can tolerate...I'd try to fix it...especially if you enjoy playing with it and are OK with its picture quality.

As per the little side discussion, pretty much anything is can be fun as instruments of discovery and growth OR even have an intrinsic beauty that is in the eye of the beholder. Plus, for some of us a 7"ES picture on an 80" wide screen is plenty good...and I like, irrationally or not, the idea of owning a comparative Model T in this hobby. As I watch mostly movies, a great story with interesting characters that is flawlessly told is compelling. Or a great baseball game can be heard, seen in black and white, and still appreciated -- I simply do not need to see blades of grass to extract the most valuable parts of the experience.

BTW, check out the attached picture I took of a whacky typewriter a few weeks ago while touring the USS Yorktown's (CV-10) medical records area. I told my father-in-law: "There must be pretty big typewriter forum online that would love to see this..." I imagine they still debate the design trade-offs and even trump the tranquility the taps of the keys and the tactile, thoughtful, and relaxing feel that only typing a thoughtful letter without the benefit of a delete key or white-out brings.

Matt

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:21 am Post subject:

Dammit, I should have taken a pix of the 1950s/60s Xray machine that the vet had. The thing looked like an old time battery charger... I gotta go back on Thursday, I'll take the camera...

nick40 · Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 4

Unless there is someone in the Chicago area familiar with Barco repair ( and I have checked where purchased and a few other spots), it seems there is no reasonable way to fix. It is possible that the fix would be straightforward but as this is a ceiling mount and involves more knowledge than I have, I am back to cost of repair, parts, 13 year old unit, etc. Video source is the same as used through out the history of my use, S video input.

If anyone has interest in this unit, let me know.

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject:

It might be worth a try to take the component output of a DVD or HD box and feed it into the RGB inputs of the set, then select input '6' I think. You'd only be out the cost of three RCA to BNC adapters, about $6.00.

The difference in picture quality will be stunning over the Svideo input.

If that's not it, and you're not willing to pull out boards and send them in, then you're better off with a digital projector frankly. I don't think you'll find anyone working on Barcos in Chicago unless a forum member comes forward to assist.

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2649 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

If most parts for the barco can be had from Curt for $0 + Shipping how is this not worth it? Im sorry but depending on where you live a free ES CRT isn't always the worst deal to come across. I got a 1272Q off ebay for a buck, cost $19 in gas to go and get it, so for $20 I got a machine that needed some minor TLC.

My friend was the one who wanted it, he stuck about $200 into it between lenses from Draganm, capacitors, and the HD Fury. For $200 in parts labor and a little actual enthusiasm into what gets done with the machine, it turned out to be well worth it. it produces a great picture that everyone who has seen it has been stunned by the quality.

I also find it hard to compare CRT projectors to typewriters.... Typewriters do one thing... type... they are used as a "word processor" only. Unless you want to throw it at someone/thing and use it as a weapon, thats its only purpose.

A CRT projector may be old, But I can think of a few pros of CRT vs digital. And I can't say the same for your typewriter analogy... there was nothing good about any typewriter ever made, even the newest of the electric ones. Printers can produce identical/better looking letters than any typewriter can.

same goes for a CRT, a well cared for 9" CRT can produce a picture that I'm sure still blows away a good 70% of digital projectors out there.

In short, if you liked the image you had with the CRT, and it curt is givng away the boards less the cost of shipping... then why not repair it?? Fix it up then sell it to a friend for the shipping cost of the parts or give it away to someone who would want it...

It is possible to give something that may have cost you thousands of dollars, away to someone else even after it has lost all of its value you know.. Smile