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Picture expands and contracts on it's own

 
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dturco



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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Picture expands and contracts on it's own

OK I was doing my magnetics from what I learned a VDC, In the middle of doing this the grid I was working on started to expand and contract sideways then the HDM failed. I put in a spare HDM and the picture still does this expand and contract bit.

I have reset the machine with a full initialization. The problem continues.

Ideas?

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Re-capping the board fixed an HDM that was doing this here recently. Or, the other thing i've been dealing with, drifting voltage from the LVPS can also affect the HDM.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject:

check for loose connections first maybe the neckboard came loose a bit.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject:

Does focus change also?
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Thanks

Dragan the HDM failed and the replacement is doing it too. Both boards bad maybe.

DVH99 Hmm neck boards would cause a HDM to fail and make the new one act weird too?

Mac yes the focus looks off too not much but some i just thought it was my bad magnetic set-up doing that after all I was still adjusting when it happened.

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject:

dturco wrote:
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Dragan the HDM failed and the replacement is doing it too. Both boards bad maybe.

DVH99 Hmm neck boards would cause a HDM to fail and make the new one act weird too?

Mac yes the focus looks off too not much but some i just thought it was my bad magnetic set-up doing that after all I was still adjusting when it happened.


I think I meant does the focus change when the image size changes. That could be HVPS. Usually vert may also shrink with horz but is sometimes less noticeable.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject:

hv lead connected properly into the splitter??
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject:

Mac I don't know I was still looking at the internal test pattern grids. I can throw a source to it and see. But I did have a few power outages yesterday also and the P/J was plugged in at the time and the last time it was while I was working on it.

Voltage spike frying the Low voltage and maybe the high voltage power supply seems likely now. Sad

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject:

dvh99 wrote:
hv lead connected properly into the splitter??


Yes.

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject:

yeah probably lvps then, i still have to get a ups to prevent these things from happening.
i think czeddie has a lvps for sale in the buy and sell topic.

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject:

off topic firefly was a very fun series and i hate the network for cancelling it after 1 season.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject:

dvh99 wrote:
off topic firefly was a very fun series and i hate the network for cancelling it after 1 season.


Gorahm Idjits, starting with the executives.

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject:

I dont think the voltage spikes are the culprit for sure. What tube were you working on when this happened?


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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
I dont think the voltage spikes are the culprit for sure. What tube were you working on when this happened?


Athanasios


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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject:

Double check all connections, But mac could be right. Bad HVPS, does the image get really bright on any of the tube as well when it does this?Best to check with the full field pattern, easier to see it.

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:32 pm    Post subject:

If this was a Barco I would guess the quad.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject:

Tom.W wrote:
If this was a Barco I would guess the quad.


Thats part of the HVPS in a marquee id guess Wink

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject:

Yes the HV quadrupler.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject:

draganm wrote:
Re-capping the board fixed an HDM that was doing this here recently. Or, the other thing i've been dealing with, drifting voltage from the LVPS can also affect the HDM.





Dvh99 and Dragan win the toasted tube award. It was a loose or dirty connection of the daughter board on the HDM. I swapped the daughter boards between the two HDMs and its working again.

I heard a lot of noise near the HDM and convergence boards so I unplugged the CVA ribbon and the stig cables to isolate the noise. It was coming from the HDM so it was a loose connection on the original board and a bad spare board that worked last year.

I guess improper storage caused a problem?

Any way I'm still here, and haven't gone DIGITAL.

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