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Arthur



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Electrohome Projector Marquee Ultra 9500LC

Recently developed a problem with Electrohome Projector Marquee Ultra 9500LC where the Blue gun will not totally turn off when projector is placed in standby. Is this a sign that the blue gun is going? Thanks for any help.
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JustGreg



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject:

Hi Arthur,

Safety first! Only do the following if you have the experience. Make sure the projector is off and unplugged first.

I don't know your skill level but if you know how to get at the neckboards swap the blue neckboard with another tube. Any one will do. If the problem follows then the neckboard for the blue tube is bad.

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Arthur



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:56 pm    Post subject:

Greg,
Thanks for the response but I've already tried swapping the neck board, problem stays with the tube.

Art
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject:

How does the image look while its on? does it seem like there is too much blue? And does the blue eventually shut of or fade after a few minutes?

nashou

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Arthur



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject:

Nashou,
The image looks perfect, blue is fine. I have had this projector 4 years. The only problem is, is that now the blue gun will not shut totally off in standby. It had always done so in the past. Blue G2 or blue brightness settings are fine. The whole picture is fine just cannot get the blue
gun to turn completely off when put in standby.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject:

If you see a lot of flickering when looking at that dimly lit background, then yes, it's contamination of the tube. The problem might go away after some hours of viewing.
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Arthur



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject:

There is no flickering whatsoever. Just the blue crt gun will not go completely off in standby mode. It dims to about 80 %
of it's intensity but 20% is still visible.
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Nashou66



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject:

Arthur wrote:
There is no flickering whatsoever. Just the blue crt gun will not go completely off in standby mode. It dims to about 80 %
of it's intensity but 20% is still visible.


Hmmm, seams like something is shorting out, the only voltage to the tubes in standby is a slight heater voltage of about 3 volts IIRC. Can you pull the P14 plug out while in standby to see what happens? Its near the base of the blue tube on the mother board.

See if the blue goes out. Then while P14 is disconnected fire up the PJ( the tubes won't go on with P14 disconnected) and measure the voltage across the pins. it should be 6.35-6.37 volts.

Athanasios

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Tim in Phoenix



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:54 pm    Post subject:

Hello

Try running blue G2 down to zero, then put in Standby. Any difference?


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Arthur



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject:

Athanasios,
Will do some more checking tomorrow, thanks for the suggestion.

Tim,
Setting Blue G2 to 0 still does not make a difference.

Thanks
Art
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JustGreg



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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject:

IIRC (from a 3 year old AVS thread) you can connect the blue G2 wire to the green tube... but you'd have to make sure you disconected the HV wire from the green at the splitter block. I may be wrong on this so wait for Nashou or Scott (tse) to confirm this.... or shoot me down in flames. Mr. Green

To be absolutely safe you could bite the bullet and physically swap the blue and green tube locations. Shocked

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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject:

You have swapped the neck card with the green and have the same symptoms. Setting G-2 to zero and the tube is still producing light. If you disconnect P14 and the tube is still lit up it would definately indicate secondary emissions on the CRT. If that is what it is there is a good chance that it can be fixed with a CRT rejuvenator. Many times a Sencore 7000 will cure that problem.

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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject:

take the tube to xanadu (somewhere in the himalayas they say) and rejuvenate the sucker.
scott i dont know what a sencore is but cant he connect it to a pc and let it show a full white on off screen (1sec white 1 sec black).

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