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syilk1
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: Please help me with Sony VPH-D50HT conversion |
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Well I am really new to this forum, I just bought a house and it had existing theatre in it, It was pretty much a short sale so did not get the " Here is how this works tour" It had a monster CPT Sony VPH-D50HT on ceiling and I laughed and was going to rip down and throw in garbage till I googled it to see if it was worth more than 50 bucks and was shocked to see how much they still cost, Welll, that lead me into this forum as I want to play Bluray and HD on projector but didnt think it could. Now I see I can buy a Fury or Moome card and make life wonderful and not have to blow my wad on expensive projector. My problem is, It is he HT version which does not look like it will accept the Moome card. Will the Fury 3 work and will the picture be worth it. Any advice would be great as I have no idea how to run this thing.
Thanks, Scott
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Yes, the HD fury 3 will work fine, and yes, i reckon itll be worth it too.
It should be a pretty good rig, and contrast wise itll still beat most digitals any day.
Itll do up to about 1280X1024p res but im not sure how sharp that will look, cause its only a 7 inch, itll do 720p and 1080i as well, so itll do bluray and HDTV without at issue.
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virusc
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Location: Massachusetts
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before you dump any money into it I would check tube condition. Makes no since if the tubes are roasted or if the projector has uneven wear due to static burns or setup wrong. Just a thought. You might want to check out the CRT primer on this site.
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Mark_A_W
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Monster D50?
It's about the smallest one ever made.
It's not worth much any more. Don't get too excited. I'd think hard before spending a couple of hundred bucks getting it running.
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Curt Palme
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Naysayer! 
Do check the tube condition before buying the Fury. Pull the lenses off the front of the tubes and check for wear. Post a pix here, and we'll let you know if it's worth buying the Fury for.
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Mark_A_W
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Just keeping it real Curt.
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CIR Engineering
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These are nice little projectors if the tubes aren't shot. When I get new clients with D50's I usually suggest one of the HDF products and running the projector at 1080i 60Hz. You can set up your BD player for this.
If you want to save some money, just buy the HDF version one. It will be a fine match for your projector.
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ecrabb
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | | It's not worth much any more. Don't get too excited. I'd think hard before spending a couple of hundred bucks getting it running. |
I don't see how the current value of the D50 has much bearing on the discussion, so I wouldn't think that hard. Unless he has at least a grand or so burning a hole in his pocket, the D50 with an HD Fury is a nice, cheap way to ease into HT. It's not like the money is down the tubes... It'll have good resale, so in a year if he decides he wants some new digital projector, he can sell the HD Fury on this very board and get back probably 2/3 or so of what he spent.
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loudmouse2
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Aren't the D50s one of the few projectors that will do 1080i through the built in COMPONENT inputs?
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CIR Engineering
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| loudmouse2 wrote: | | Aren't the D50s one of the few projectors that will do 1080i through the built in COMPONENT inputs? |
I think they will display an image, but the color decoder is not correct for Rec709 so the colors will not be quite right with the built in decoder.
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ginger123456
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Hi,
The D50HT you have will not accept the moome card, only the D50Q will as it has an ifb slot, what looks like an ifb card on the D50HT is called a q card i think? it is slightly smaller and if you were to remove the securing screws and try to remove it you will see it is physically connected (hard wired) to other boards inside.
The D50Q model ifb card (think it comes as standard with an ifb40) slides straight out and can be replaced with the moome card.
As stated read the manual check the tube condition if all ok the fury is the right choice, or feed component HD 1080i in directly, should still be a pretty good picture if all is well.
Good luck and enjoy
ginger
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ecrabb
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | | I think they will display an image, but the color decoder is not correct for Rec709 so the colors will not be quite right with the built in decoder. |
Not to mention with the "analog sunset" impending, it's hard to say how long the analog connection will be good for HD content, good colors or no.
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syilk1
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Thanks for all replies, I move in tomm. So will get pictures of the tubes asap, it looks like it was very well cared for, previous owners had bitter divorce and basically just walked away from all the stuff, grill, tv's projector,sunfire theatre reciever and amp, so it looks barely used but I guess will soon see. Can't believe I almost tossed this thing
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drice1234
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It could be helpful if you add your location to your profile. There may be someone nearby who could help you. Be carefull, these things can be addictive. I am using a D50, have 3 more in the attic and 2 NEC projectors at the office.
Dan
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CasetheCorvetteman
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I don't see how the current value of the D50 has much bearing on the discussion, so I wouldn't think that hard.
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I agree with that myself, and even if it does die, he can easily get a replacement CRT projector and put in it's place, the HD Fury will still be of benefit.
| syilk1 wrote: | | Can't believe I almost tossed this thing |
Id have cried if i heard you did!! My first CRT was one i found hidden under a stage, laying on its back, tubes cooked, case cracked, and not working as it should. When i was told to either take it home or throw it out i didnt have to think long about it, and i managed to get it working. When i did get it working and saw just how much of a difference it made to have a decent contrast ratio, even with the rooted tubes, i knew i had to have more. Ive still got that Sony VPH 1001-QM, got some newish tubes off Curt a while ago, then had an arcing issue, which i havent had time to fix yet, but i wont give up on it yet either. Even though its only a 480i/576i projector, when youre watching DivX and VHS or playing retro video games on it who cares anyway?
Ive also got an NEC 9PG with perfect no visible wear tubes.
There is a site i like to read sometimes for a laugh about a shop called AV Buzz, here is the translated link: http://au.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avbuzz.com%2Faudio-video%2F200812%2FG90%2F0.htm&lp=zt_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
I think it says it best on there at the line saying: "One simultaneously use three guns and the single rifle bolt, should have the qualifications to speak today me to three rifle bolt's views".... And i believe that to be true
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perisoft
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: |
There is a site i like to read sometimes for a laugh about a shop called AV Buzz, here is the translated link: |
Oh my god; that's fantastic! 
| Quote: | Many friends also in are adoring three rifle bolt's picture natures, but I say by somebody who has been through passerby status, three rifle bolts measure can only broadcast increases the line DVD or the blue light movie software extremely after today,
Will be called has the movie feeling, must broadcast the high clear television program the words, will draw the nature to compare the delivery order rifle bolt, three rifle bolt Lian Chendu will not eat. |
Yes indeed. Three rifle bolt Lian Chendu will not eat. Or... uh... what? 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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HAHAHA!! Its a great site isnt it!!
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syilk1
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OK so here is latest if anyone can help. I have AV guy come over and he basically just went through house and said we need to sell you this and that. Said my CRT tube is obsolete and need to get a DLP projector. I think he may be taking me for a run. I cant figure how to see if tubes are good. He says picture is dim but I dont think I can hook it up like it is. SO PLEASE HELP. Anyone in chicago area that is familiar with this projector?? I guess I could just order the Fury and see
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CIR Engineering
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I am based out of Chicago if you want a second opinion.
I will be leaving for Europe tomorrow, but I'll be back early next week. You can give me a call today or Wednesday next week if you like.
craigr
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barcoed
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| ecrabb wrote: | | CIR Engineering wrote: | | I think they will display an image, but the color decoder is not correct for Rec709 so the colors will not be quite right with the built in decoder. |
Not to mention with the "analog sunset" impending, it's hard to say how long the analog connection will be good for HD content, good colors or no.
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What, what, whaaaaat??? - I use 1920x1080p/48 along good ol'd RGBHV from my HTPC - looks just fine to me. I actually prefer it to any digi input. 
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