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Help with Barco Data 808? no picture, clicks every second
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gholt



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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Help with Barco Data 808? no picture, clicks every second

I'm hoping someone can help me with my Barco Data 808. There's no picture, and every second and a half I can hear a click in the area of the boards. Coinciding with that click, 2 of the greed LEDs on the G2 board go out (3rd from the front, and last one - next to the red one).

I'm still pretty much a novice on troubleshooting. So I'd appreciate any help you can provide.
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Tom.W



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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject:

Have you read this ?

http://www.curtpalme.com/Troubleshooting_Tips_Barco1.shtm

This might also help.

http://www.curtpalme.com/Barco808_Layout1.shtm
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gholt



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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject:

Tom.W wrote:
Have you read this ?

http://www.curtpalme.com/Troubleshooting_Tips_Barco1.shtm

This might also help.

http://www.curtpalme.com/Barco808_Layout1.shtm


I'm embarrassed to say that I hadn't gone through those basic troubleshooting tips. If I knew about them before, I apparently forgot about them. Thanks! That's a great resource.

In going through those steps, I noticed that the Red scan fail light is also on. I should have recognized that as well. I have an extra Barco 800, does anyone know if I can safely swap the horizontal and vertical boards between the Barco Data 808 and the Barco 800?
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Elaine Benes



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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:02 am    Post subject:

Check the part number on the boards themselves, if they're the same you can swap them for sure, the part numbers are the R76xxxx numbers.
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gholt



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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject:

Thanks.
Well, I finally got some time to check the part numbers. If the following look like reasonable part numbers, then I guess I'll need to talk to Curt about purchasing some cards to try. It looks like they don't match:

Barco Data 808:
Horizontal = R7617415
Vertical = R7622695

Barco 800:
Horizontal = 761766 (couldn't find something starting with an "R")
Vertical = 761768 (and I found another sticker saying 761769)

So, do those look like reasonable part numbers? Or am I missing something?
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject:

THat's a bit of a strange problem. Pull the H board, power back up. You won't get an image, but I want to see if the clicking goes away.

Curt
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gholt



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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject:

No clicking without the H board. And the red scan fail light on the SMPS is off without the H board... in case that helps.
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:39 pm    Post subject:

I am guessing that the H board is bad. A short on that board can cause what you're describing.

Do you want to send it in for repair?

Cheers!
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gholt



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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject:

Sure, I've got some other boards to send you as well. I'll send them at the same time.
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Tom.W



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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:09 am    Post subject:

Did you by any chance try to swap the G2 board from a BG808s with the one in your BD808 before the problem ?
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gholt



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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject:

No, I hadn't been swapping cards. Everything was working fine for months before it went out. I had replaced the tubes earlier in the fall, but hadn't done any work on it lately. Oh, and I don't have a BG808s. The only ones I have are BD808, BD801s, and 3 Barco 800.
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject:

To confirm the H board is bad, I believe the one out of the 801 will work in the data 808.
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gholt



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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject:

Hmm. I'm a little nervous about trying that, since I'm using the 801s as my substitute for the 808. Is there any chance that the 808 could do some damage to the 801s's H board if I try it?
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject:

No, but let me look up the part numbers this afternoon to make sure..
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gholt



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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Curt. Any luck with those part numbers?
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Ile



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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:31 am    Post subject:

Those both use same R7617415 Hdeflection board, you can check that from board markings.

There is also chance that 801s have earlier R761741 version (depend about manufacturing date), but that should work as well. These two share also many other boards, like smps, Vdef and all rgb video boards.
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gholt



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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject:

Thanks. The reason I'm being so cautious is that I use these Barcos to run all of my visuals out of in a planetarium. Since I'm already using the BD801s as a backup for my BD808, I can't afford to do something to break the 801s in my attempts to diagnose the 808.

I'll check the part number, and possibly try switching them on Friday. That's my next block of time to work on this.
Thanks again.
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gholt



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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject:

Curt confirmed via email that it was safe to try my BD801s H output board in my BD808, and sure enough, it worked. So, it does appear that it's the H board that failed. I'm purchasing one from Curt.

Thank you all for your help.
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gholt



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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject:

Ok, so with the replacement H output board I bought from Curt, I'm getting an image. Yeah! But I'm getting a weird wavy distortion that I haven't seen before. I've attached a photo taken looking into the lens of the green tube with a DVD home screen input. But I also tried another input (computer) and got the same distortion.

Any ideas? I'm sure it's probably just an adjustment somewhere. But I don't know enough to find a reference to it in the documentation.
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject:

Were you getting this with the 801 board? That looks like it's an issue contained within the H board, maybe there's a compatibility problem?

Also, that pix looks like video or Svideo. Have you tried an RGB signal, or are you running RGB on that set?
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