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Urgent help with G90 Error codes (80, 81, sometimes 64)!!!

 
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CIR Engineering



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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Urgent help with G90 Error codes (80, 81, sometimes 64)!!!

So I just flew down to Amarillo Texas to install a Radiance XE and calibrate a G90. According to the client, the G90 has always been perfect.

Well, we went to turn the G90 on today and got ORANGE 80 (BA board) and ORANGE 81 (DA board). I have never seen either of these boards go bad. Tried the G90 several times and have gotten an ORANGE 64 error which is the 15 volt rail. This makes sense as all boards in the G90 need the 15 volts so I would expect other boards to throw errors with a bad 15 volt section and the DA and BA boards have nothing to do with one another.

My wonderful wife is going to FedEx overnight me some replacement boards this afternoon. I am going to have here send me a GB board and I think I will also have her send the L board. Does anyone think there is any significant chance that any other board might be bad? What other boards should I have her send?

This really $%#* sucks Sad Fourteen year old projector and it picks today to go out.

craigr

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject:

I've had shutdown and random codes caused by a bad power supply, but also a bad YA board. Send down a bunch of other boards I'd say as well. Won't be too much more to send down a bunch of boards at the same time, and last thing you and the customer need is to be short 1 board.

I've got a G90 I'm scrapping here, but the Ya, LV power supply and V board are already gone.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
I've had shutdown and random codes caused by a bad power supply, but also a bad YA board. Send down a bunch of other boards I'd say as well. Won't be too much more to send down a bunch of boards at the same time, and last thing you and the customer need is to be short 1 board.

I've got a G90 I'm scrapping here, but the Ya, LV power supply and V board are already gone.

Well fortunately I have a spare of every board for the G90 including a YA on lone. However, I can't send every single board, so I need to isolate the most likely. I'll have her send a YA as well and maybe the BA and DA.

I think I will have her send the GA board as well.

So my list so far is:

GB (with daughter cards)
GA (with daughter card)
YA
BA
DA
L

Anything else???

craigr

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HaydnG90



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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject:

Craig,
Shame you weren't closer to Dallas. I could have loaned you all the boards you might have needed to troubleshoot the problem.

I've been toying with the idea of installing the Radience and it would be nice to see it working on a G90.

If the MP G90 mods had already been released you could have also made a detour and calibrated my system. I guess that will have to wait for another time.


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Curt Palme
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject:

That should do it I think...
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CIR Engineering



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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:46 pm    Post subject:

HaydnG90 wrote:
Craig,
Shame you weren't closer to Dallas. I could have loaned you all the boards you might have needed to troubleshoot the problem.

I've been toying with the idea of installing the Radience and it would be nice to see it working on a G90.

If the MP G90 mods had already been released you could have also made a detour and calibrated my system. I guess that will have to wait for another time.

If you want to come up tomorrow or the next day I could ask my client if that would be ok. The projector should (crossed fingers) be working by tomorrow afternoon...

craigr

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CIR Engineering



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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:46 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
That should do it I think...

I sure hope so Smile

craigr

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject:

Where are new G90's being sold now? This client is saying he may want to buy a new one and keep this existing one for parts.... I know I know, but... He loves CRT and the G90 so he wants that, but only if it is NEW.

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HaydnG90



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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject:

Here you go. Brand new with 6 months warranty. Price is negotiable last time I inquired

http://www.overstockpro.com/item.php?k=VPH-G90U&id=899

I asked what if the YA board goes bad or the pj develops a problem that can't be repaired. In that instance they would refund the purchase price within the warranty period.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject:

CIR Engineering wrote:
HaydnG90 wrote:
Craig,
Shame you weren't closer to Dallas. I could have loaned you all the boards you might have needed to troubleshoot the problem.

I've been toying with the idea of installing the Radience and it would be nice to see it working on a G90.

If the MP G90 mods had already been released you could have also made a detour and calibrated my system. I guess that will have to wait for another time.

If you want to come up tomorrow or the next day I could ask my client if that would be ok. The projector should (crossed fingers) be working by tomorrow afternoon...

craigr


Thanks for the offer. Tempting but its a 6 hour drive each way, through some of the most boring and tedious countryside known to man.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject:

HaydnG90 wrote:
Here you go. Brand new with 6 months warranty. Price is negotiable last time I inquired

http://www.overstockpro.com/item.php?k=VPH-G90U&id=899

I asked what if the YA board goes bad or the pj develops a problem that can't be repaired. In that instance they would refund the purchase price within the warranty period.

Thanks Haydn. I found them through Google, but it's cool that you talked to them about the YA already and had that info. My client is considering sending them an offer.

I figured you wouldn't feel like driving 12 hours, but if you did, that would have been cool Smile

craigr

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
That should do it I think...

I think I will have her ship the F board as well.

craigr

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Got G90?

Well its good to know there are still enthusiasts with cash out there who still choose CRT over digital. Kudos to your client. Maybe he would've given me a ride in his Lambo....that would have been cool.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject:

Craig,

Are you sure it HAS to be new?

Wink
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject:

dochlywd wrote:
Craig,

Are you sure it HAS to be new?

Wink

Sorry Doc, but he wants one in a Sony crate never opened. Besides, if you can't sell yours soon maybe you'll wind up keeping it Smile But as you may have guessed, the YA that I have as a loner is yours, so if we wind up needing it the good news for you will be that I sold your YA board for you Wink

craigr

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Got G90?

HaydnG90 wrote:
Well its good to know there are still enthusiasts with cash out there who still choose CRT over digital. Kudos to your client. Maybe he would've given me a ride in his Lambo....that would have been cool.

Haydn, I have clients across the income levels, but I do have MANY who are well into the upper class and still want their CRT's. Most of them just hang a top notch digital in the same room to enjoy both technologies.

craigr

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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject:

dochlywd wrote:
Craig,

Are you sure it HAS to be new?

Wink

Also Doc, this is the guy who is taking your Moome IFB. I was supposed to be here two and a half weeks ago but their airport was closed due to snow. So I'll have your IFB money for you when I get home... assuming the projector decides to work tomorrow.

craigr

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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject:

No problem!! That's kind of what I am hoping.........my G90 will still be around! I am solely watching the AE-2000 now and if I had never seen a CRT before, it would be fine. Really, I think I would be more than satisfied had I never witnessed the incredible contrast and smoothness of CRT before! The green neckboard that Curt has is bad. He said it needs a video chip and he can pull one from a NEC neckboard or something like that. Has he contacted you? I asked him if he could just fix the neckboard that you have or if he could just use the video chip from that board (provided it's good) so we maintain original parts. Just curious of your thoughts!

Thanks for all the help you've been giving me!!!!!!!!

Doc
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Figure out what's wrong?
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:05 am    Post subject:

The GA board was the problem. Everything is well in the world again.

I worked 12 hours today and got 1080p 60Hz, 1080p 72Hz, and 817x1920 72Hz all set up from scratch including nine zone six poles on all three tubes. The G90, Radiance XE, and Moome FULLHD look fantastic as usual and the client is thrilled.

Thanks Curt for hitting me over the head and making sure I had my wife send more than just the GB board Wink

craigr

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