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digitalayon
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: Color differentces between Runco 933 and Barco 1208s/2 |
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OK....this may sound like it doesn't make any sense but....the colors on the Runco 933 have more pop than the Barco 1208s/2. Also the skin colors look better on the Runco as well. But here is the strange part. The Barco is brighter. I know I'm new to this, but does this make any sense? Is this related to color filtering in the lenses?
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bbfarmht
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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The Runco has hd-145 lenses which are color filtered. The 1208 does not. That's why the runco seems a little nicer. you could get joust adapters and put the 145's on the barco and you would have s better projector.
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secstate
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| Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Color filtering is something you don't miss until you have had it. I used no color filtered Barcos for years and it never bothered me. Now I have a Runco 1100 (Barco 1209s more or less) with color filtering, I could never go back.
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digitalayon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:11 am Post subject: |
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The Barco uses Delta HD-8 Rev. B....how do they compare?
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Mark_A_W
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| Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:15 am Post subject: |
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They're shite.
They aren't filtered, they cause bigger halos, and they aren't as sharp.
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secstate
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| Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | They're shite.
They aren't filtered, they cause bigger halos, and they aren't as sharp. |
Most, but not all folks say that about sharpness. Having never seen HD-144/5 in action on a well setup projector I don't know one way or the other. The HD120s on my Runco though are WAY sharper than the HD-8s. Also the 1208s/2 should have the higher resolution PT18s/P16 tubes. That may give it a leg up in the sharpness department. I think some of the softness attributed to HD8s might be related to the 180DMB/DVB tubes. I found even 720p a bit soft on 180DVBs in my Barco Data 808s (with about 4000 hours on the tubes) but there was a VERY significant increase in resolution when I went to P16s. I am not saying that HD8s are great but I do think the standard res tubes in the Marquees/Barcos are more of a limiting factor initially than the HD8s.
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digitalayon
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:24 am Post subject: |
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I don't know how I would use the Lenses from the Runco to the Barco....the Barco lenses are much bigger
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Ile
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kal
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digitalayon
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:33 am Post subject: |
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well hell.....sounds like I gave the old man the wrong projector if the Runco is both filtered in the lenses and the glycol is tinted. I guess I can tint my barco tubes and maybe find a set of 145's. I saw the directions on the glycol tinting....why not inject the dye without having to remove any glycol?
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Mark_A_W
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:47 am Post subject: |
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You don't need 144/145's AND tinted glycol.
One or the other is all that is needed.
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bbfarmht
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The runco does not have both tinted glycol and color corrected lenses. It has the color corrected lenses.
I would just get a set of hd-145s and the joust adapters and call it good. You should be able to tell that the lenses are the colored one because they have colored labels on them.
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Mark_A_W
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Colour FILTERED, not corrected.
They are different things.
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kschmit2
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Mark, lets agree that they are both corrected AND filtered 
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