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Disney's Dumb Arse Moves

 
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WanMan



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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:39 am    Post subject: Disney's Dumb Arse Moves

Apparently they think its a good time to RAISE their Blu-ray prices:

Disney’s Q1 studio unit profit falls 64%
WALL-E, Caspian DVD sales trail year-earlier titles
By Danny King -- Video Business, 2/3/2009

FEB. 3 | Walt Disney’s studio entertainment unit’s fiscal first-quarter earnings dropped 64% as DVD titles such as WALL-E and The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian failed to keep pace with year-earlier releases such as Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End, Ratatouille and High School Musical 2. The company, whose sales from older DVD titles also fell, said it was looking to cut costs related to its DVD marketing, production and distribution while possibly raising prices on some of its Blu-ray titles.

Studio entertainment operating earnings for the quarter ended Dec. 27 were $187 million, down from $514 million a year earlier. The division’s sales declined 26% to $1.94 billion and accounted for 20% of the parent company’s revenue, down from 25% a year earlier, the company said in a statement today.

Disney’s DVD sales were consistent with the broader decline in home entertainment demand last year, as the U.S. economic downturn caused customers to cut discretionary spending. Last year, U.S. home entertainment spending fell 5.7% from a year earlier to $21.7 billion despite Blu-ray Disc sales tripling to about $750 million, according to data compiled by Video Business and Rentrak.

"It's clear that the economy has had an impact on DVD sales," said Disney Chief Executive Officer Robert Iger on a conference call with analysts today. "We need to be more selective on what we choose to make and what we choose to distribute."

Iger added that, with many of Disney's Blu-ray titles including features such as a standard-definition of the film and other extras, the company may be able to raise prices on such titles.

Disney last year had about 12% of the U.S. home entertainment market, trailing Warner Home Video, News Corp.’s 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment and Viacom’s Paramount Home Entertainment. WALL-E was the sixth best-selling DVD last year despite a Nov. 18 release date, while the studio’s Enchanted was No. 9. Disney’s No Country for Old Men tied Lionsgate’s 3:10 to Yuma as the third most-rented DVD of last year.

Overall, Disney’s net income fell 32% to $845 million, or 45¢ a share, from $1.25 billion, or 63¢, a year earlier, as sales fell 8.2% to $9.6 billion, the company said today. Disney, whose media networks and parks and resorts units also saw earnings declines, was expected to earn 53¢ a share on $10.17 billion, the average analyst estimates in a Thomson Financial survey.

Disney shares fell more than 7% in extended trading at about 5:30 p.m. Eastern time today.


Hey Disney, I have just put a temporary ban on buying anything related to your outfit, you dumb SOB MoFo !%&#

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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject:

I don't understand, you are banning Disney because they are attempting to survive a recession? I have an idea, let's ban all American companies and products that are attempting to make money in a free market economy. Let's bankrupt all American companies and put every American out of work.
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject:

Yep

I'm a cowsumer. What did you expect?

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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject:

tri_joel wrote:
I don't understand, you are banning Disney because they are attempting to survive a recession? I have an idea, let's ban all American companies and products that are attempting to make money in a free market economy. Let's bankrupt all American companies and put every American out of work.


Look at the other side of it.

So is everyone else, most people I talk to won't buy Bluray because it's too expensive. I get alot of the " You buy Bluray at THOSE prices? Are you nut's?" comments.

People like us may buy a Disney bluray but the average consumer won't jump at higher prices, especially with the way things are now. People expect thin'gs to be introduced at a higher price then have the price drop not go up.

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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject:

It's business. If they can sell 300 BD's for $100 or 500 for $10, which one makes the most business sense? They aren't in the entertainment business to sell cheap BD's, they are in it to make money.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject:

Bah, if they want to stimulate sales, they need to have a sale.

Better yet: They should have a Buy direct from Disney and save! That would get me spending. $30 is retail cost for a BD, retailers pay less. If they sold directly for $25 (incl shipping), they'd be making that extra $$ themselves, cutting out the middle man and doubling their profits.

Increasing prices trying to make money in a recession doesn't make sense increasing your client pool does. The point everyone else is making is, you could try to sell 300 BD's for $100, but you won't. You'll sell 10. If you lowered the price to $25 per BD, you'll sell 500. You won't make as much per disk, but people might consider getting a player that way and then consider buying more movies. You'll increase your client pool which will make you lots more money than trying to gouge your existing clients. I for example, will not go get just anything on BD, 9 out of 10 are still DVD. It has to have some major visual effects of cinematic scenes for me to consider it. I have over 500 DVD's and only 30 BD's. 5 of those BD's were bought at Rogers and Blockbuster "Previously Enjoyed", 12 were bought on sale, some as deals as a box set (Oceans Trilogy for $50 BD, Resident Evil trilogy $60, Pirates of caribbean trilogy $70, matrix trilogy -all cheaper than buying individually). I only paid full price for 1 BD. The prices need to come down to the $25 level for me to start buying more movies on BD and I'm sure a lot of people feel that way.

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject:

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Increasing prices trying to make money in a recession doesn't make sense increasing your client pool does. The point everyone else is making is, you could try to sell 300 BD's for $100, but you won't. You'll sell 10. If you lowered the price to $25 per BD, you'll sell 500.


I was not involved in their market survey, so I cannot comment on exactly what they are thinking, but Disney has been running one of the most successful businesses in history.

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Better yet: They should have a Buy direct from Disney and save! That would get me spending. $30 is retail cost for a BD, retailers pay less. If they sold directly for $25 (incl shipping), they'd be making that extra $$ themselves, cutting out the middle man and doubling their profits.


They would need to set up a shipping and receiving department, a sales department, a returns department, and a warehouse. Disney doesn't actually make the BD, so they would need to receive the BDs from the manufacturer, and pay to maintain the inventory. By the time they had a direct from Disney program, the price would be so high no one would buy them.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject:

tri_joel wrote:
I was not involved in their market survey, so I cannot comment on exactly what they are thinking, but Disney has been running one of the most successful businesses in history.

So? So was Dell, but look at it now. Layoffs, evaporating margins and profits, a stale product lineup, and nothing exciting on the horizon. OTOH, look at Apple. 10 years ago, they were just starting to turn around from near-death, and now they OWN several product segments and are kicking long-time stalwarts' asses in other segments... and they're NOT lowering prices to do it! Not only aren't they lowering prices, they're selling PREMIUM products!!!

Just because a company did well in the past doesn't mean it's making good decisions now.

Besides, to be perfectly honest, Disney would be sucking wind now if it weren't for Pixar. Primo-deluxe douche bag Michael Eisner presided over the slow downward slide of one of America's greatest companies. If it weren't for the Vulcan mind-meld with Lasseter and Co. breathing some new life into the Disney kingdom, Eisner probably would have been in BAD shape by now.

When a company whose cornerstone is its creativity has to buy a much smaller company for a HUGE sum of cash to get some creative mojo back, that's NOT a good sign.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/02/opinion/02gabler.html

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