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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Movie Posters

OK, I seem to be in a minority (obviously in more ways than 1 Smile). I have a dedicated theater in my current house. Total number of movie posters in the theater: 0.

In fact, it is as free from distractions as possible (black front wall and black carpeted stage, dark maroon walls with black acoustic panels, plain black seating). That was my goal. Yet so many people seem to have movie posters in their theaters which I never understood because:
1) They introduce a hard surface which reflects sound as well as light, and
2) In my whole life, I've never seen movie posters IN a theater.

I just figured I was in the minority until I was at my brother's house yesterday and read a recent copy of Sound and Vision which now has a column from the famed Theo Kalomirakis. His comment in this article included something to the effect of "movie posters are never IN the theater". YES! He also railed against distractions like popcorn machines, movie paraphernalia, and media cases in your field of view. YES!

So, this again got me wondering--why are movie posters and movie paraphernalia, et al so popular in DIY home theaters?

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject:

You have to ASK that?

It's the WOW factor = the WAF, but to us it = WTF?


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I'm right with you. They look cool, esp to the layman, but they serve no purpose.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject:

Many people want to re-create the theater experience. So they get popcorn machines and hot dog machines and movie posters, and coming attraction signs.

I plan to use......NONE.

The only theater experience i want is a better picture and sound.

I plan my theater to look like a comfortable "family room" w/ comfy chairs and couches and the big ole screen for the movie.

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject:

I have 6 or 7 large posters nicely framed.

Mine are all outside the field of view such that when you sit watching a movie, you don't see they're there. That means that one's in the bathroom, one's in the dark on the wall 8 feet to the left of the screen, and the rest are beside the rear speakers or on the rear wall.

When I went to two rows of seating I did end up moving them back a bit on the side wall as the light reflection off one (in the field of view) was distracting for me. Wife thought I was nuts.

I have a 1000+ foot basement so I doubt the few square feet of posters is going to do anything to sound. They're not placed anywhere near the first reflection points, and the the poster cover is not glass but flexible plastic. My marble bar is more of an issue for me as far as sound as concerned. Smile

So why'd I buy them? I treat them like art on the wall. The walls just look way too bare without anything on them in a big room like mine. I didn't just buy movies I liked, I bought posters I liked. I also tried to get ones that are somewhat timeless (debatable) so now (8 years after I bought most of them) they don't seem odd.

If I had a dedicated room I likely wouldn't use any, but then I'd have more of a lobby/bar outside the room and they'd go there.

I'd also like to paint the walls/ceilings 100% black everywhere (instead of what I have) but I didn't get my way. Smile

Side wall:




The Gladiator poster (it's the French version) here to the left of the screen isn't seen at all when lights are off:





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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject:

emdawgz1 wrote:
Many people want to re-create the theater experience. So they get popcorn machines and hot dog machines and movie posters, and coming attraction signs.


My point is that you are NOT recreating the theater experience. Theaters don't have movie posters and popcorn machines in them--no movie auditorium anywhere has EVER done that.

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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject:

Have any of you ever heard about the old (1900s) house that someone bought, and went to renovate, and discovered 100s or 1000s of 1900-1920s movie posters used as insulation in the walls?

Whatever show I watched where they covered that considered that movie poster collection one of finest in the world, and apparently several of the posters were one of a kind ones; the experts had never seen samples of some before. One heck of a show on Treasure or A&E or ?
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject:

Kal, yours due seem to be in the more "lobby-ish" areas (as an FYI my posters are in the room outside the theater and the bathroom--so I do have them) and not in the field of view. You also don't have DVD racks and such in the field of view, so your layout type was not what I didn't get (I get your approach). But, that said, for the theater area, why not just point some acoustic treatments around the rear to act as "flutter" killers instead of the posters (BTW, as I think you know, I do like the look of your "combo" room)?
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject:

Person99 wrote:
emdawgz1 wrote:
Many people want to re-create the theater experience. So they get popcorn machines and hot dog machines and movie posters, and coming attraction signs.


My point is that you are NOT recreating the theater experience. Theaters don't have movie posters and popcorn machines in them--no movie auditorium anywhere has EVER done that.


Most people are lucky to have ONE dedicated room for a HT. The option of having a 2nd separate room for a "lobby" is uncommon. My "lobby" outside of the HT is my boys' playroom. It has the popcorn machine and the Welcome to the Cinema sign. But I do have a backlit movie poster on the back wall of the HT.

The "theater experience" doesn't have to be an exact replica of a commercial theater... I don't have sticky floors, overpriced snacks, or cell phones ringing constantly.

There are tradeoffs and we all have different personal preferences. What you may consider tacky or disfunctional, others may consider fun or nostalgic.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject:

If you are truly recreating the movie theater experience, then the posters belong outside the theater. Just like actual
theaters. Smile

I am putting one lighted poster box outside the theater.


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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Have any of you ever heard about the old (1900s) house that someone bought, and went to renovate, and discovered 100s or 1000s of 1900-1920s movie posters used as insulation in the walls?

Whatever show I watched where they covered that considered that movie poster collection one of finest in the world, and apparently several of the posters were one of a kind ones; the experts had never seen samples of some before. One heck of a show on Treasure or A&E or ?

So that's how AR was able to afford 5 or 6 vacations this summer. Mr. Green

I've never seen that long shot with the bar and screen in it before Kal...very nice! BOT, do you frame your own posters? My former employer owned a business that offered that service. I watched the gal making a frame one day and it was really easy. She had a pair of snips that cut out the 45 degree of the plastic (for the corners) and whipped out a frame in a matter of minutes. It's shameful how much commercial framers get for the plastic frames. I have all the jigs to make my own from wood but am not at that point yet in my HT project. For now, I have posters inside and outside the HT hung with Magic Boogers Silly Putty like stuff. Embarassed

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Have any of you ever heard about the old (1900s) house that someone bought, and went to renovate, and discovered 100s or 1000s of 1900-1920s movie posters used as insulation in the walls?

Whatever show I watched where they covered that considered that movie poster collection one of finest in the world, and apparently several of the posters were one of a kind ones; the experts had never seen samples of some before. One heck of a show on Treasure or A&E or ?


Yep, I remember the same show. It seems that it was about 5-6 years ago I heard the story. Only that there were a BUNCH of posters that were one-of-a-kind.

I have not heard of the Treasure channel so it must have been A&E channel.

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject:

That's the one. Back then, there was no insulation for homes, so people would stuff paper n'stuff in the walls. Turns out the original home owner worked for years for a local movie theater...
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject:

Person99 wrote:
emdawgz1 wrote:
Many people want to re-create the theater experience. So they get popcorn machines and hot dog machines and movie posters, and coming attraction signs.


My point is that you are NOT recreating the theater experience. Theaters don't have movie posters and popcorn machines in them--no movie auditorium anywhere has EVER done that.


No sh*t I agree with y'all 100% I wanted to go for the REAL authentic movie theater experience. First I made sure I had a crappy image up on the wall with tons of ambient light so people don't trip fall and sue, then I put in a crappy sound system. But it still didn't feel quite authentic enough, so I pissed on the floor, spilled sugary soda EVERYWHERE, spit on the chairs, put gum on every surface I could and threw popcorn and trash all over the place, then I went into my bathroom and pissed all over it, took a wicked sh*t and crammed tons of paper down the crapper until it overflowed and decided just for that extra bit of realism I wiped boogers all over the walls too.

NOW my theater is actually recreating the movie experience And it is so much better than having a comfortable space in MY home built the way I like it in a way that I am happy with and makes my family and MY kids smile. Hell I thought on my limited resources I could piece together something nice in my home where we could gather and have some fun in a crazy little space of our own. I soon realized that since I didn't see things the same as everyone else and more importantly everyone else doesn't see things the same as me I was an absolute idiot for putting a poster box on the wall.Twisted Evil

Naw I'm just kidding. I totally get the wanting the perfect viewing environment, the perfect audio space and the purist attitude towards movie viewing, zero ambient light, treated point of first reflection seating distance 1.5 times the width of the screen and on and on and on.....and I 'll be honest I don't get the themed movie theater thing, pirates, Star Wars, whatever but I also don't get some of the nicer dedicated theaters, only because that is WAY above my pay grade, not because I think they're foolish for doing it their own way.

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject:

JustGreg wrote:
Curt Palme wrote:
Have any of you ever heard about the old (1900s) house that someone bought, and went to renovate, and discovered 100s or 1000s of 1900-1920s movie posters used as insulation in the walls?

Whatever show I watched where they covered that considered that movie poster collection one of finest in the world, and apparently several of the posters were one of a kind ones; the experts had never seen samples of some before. One heck of a show on Treasure or A&E or ?

So that's how AR was able to afford 5 or 6 vacations this summer. Mr. Green



I saw that show. It may have been a part of antiques road show or Bob Villa's This old house. They went to renovate a 1923 Califonia bungalow and found not just posters but placards, used at the ticket window some 8x10 but others larger, insulating the walls. The origional owner of the house owned the local movie house too. Aparently when the movie had had it's run the studio's told the theaters to just throw the plackards away Shocked

Being thrifty the theater owner founds a good use for them. Most only had a single nail hole through them.

Very cool find.

The most I've ever found was some whiskey from prohibition, hidden in the tower of an old gas station roof built around 1906 or so. I wish I could remember the name of the stations. They were quite famous here back then.

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject:

Person99 wrote:
But, that said, for the theater area, why not just point some acoustic treatments around the rear to act as "flutter" killers instead of the posters (BTW, as I think you know, I do like the look of your "combo" room)?

On the todo list. The never shrinking, ever expanding todo list. Wink

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:24 am    Post subject:

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I've never seen that long shot with the bar and screen in it before Kal...very nice! BOT, do you frame your own posters?

Nope. They're $50 IKEA frames. I needed 6-7 of them and the regular frames would have cost $400 each. Too rich for my blood.

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:


The most I've ever found was some whiskey from prohibition, hidden in the tower of an old gas station roof built around 1906 or so. I wish I could remember the name of the stations. They were quite famous here back then.


LUSH! Smile

I found three empty stubbys when I was cutting open drywall in my house when I was wiring it. Old Style, I think..

As a sideline, I showed my g/f's 13 year old daughter today that watching the 9500 with the room lights out made the picture look a lot better... Mr. Green (keep your sicko comments to yourself...)
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject:

Related story:

http://reelclassics.com/Articles/General/posters-article.htm

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject:

Well I was going to throw in three backlit movie posters in my dedicated theater, but after accoustic treatment and GOM I figured why screw up sound and contrast ratio for something that looks real cool when the lights are on, typically 2-3 minutes. Most people that see the room for the first time are kind of in awe of the room itself. Besides why cheepen it with posters. Now I have three posters sitting in a corner, but I'm going to throw them in the equipment room.

The wife otta love that.
( I can already hear it, $700 for posters in an equipment room....YOU IDIOT!!!! )
I can't even argue that.

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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject:

I have to say I agree, alot of ppl have a hard time creating a dedicated theater, much less a lobby. So when they do, they cram everything into it that means theater to them. I have seen a couple IRL and compared to mine they are mad crazy packed with stuff, BUT its what they want and how they enjoy it. I am more of a purest ( I got to paint the front walls and ceiling black and it makes a HUGE difference) so mine is sparse. I also have my own computer room and a work room. I am good to the wife and she is good to me Smile So i can afford to be a "snob" lol


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