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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: Semi-OT: Source for RPTV service info? |
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I'm being called upon more and more to diagnose RPTVs... including a potential paying gig tonight. Is there a good source of service info online?
The set in question is a Phillips 60" HD model 60pp9202, and I'm hoping to find the tube p/n so I can test the tube with my CR-70.
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Clarence
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ya bahstahd... Googled the answer five seconds before I got there!
Still love to find the service manual (for free!)
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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GREEN is P16LTG00HHA
RED is P16LTG00RFA
BLUE is P16LTG00BMB
There's your online service. Anything else you need to know?
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | GREEN is P16LTG00HHA
RED is P16LTG00RFA
BLUE is P16LTG00BMB
There's your online service. Anything else you need to know? |
Donkey Shorts! I'm logging in to sencore for the pinout now.
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the output of Sencore's database, FWIW:
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macgyver655
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I have the full manual if you need the pinouts.
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stefuel
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm comming over and letting the air out of your tires every nite until you put the Quee back together. 
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| stefuel wrote: | | I'm comming over and letting the air out of your tires every nite until you put the Quee back together. |
Gotta take paying work too... Gotta fund these expensive hobbies!
I may be selling my nicest speakers soon, to help pay for the landscaping.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Manual is on its way. It covers a bunch of chassis's. Just remember your's is a DPTV305. Any problems, let me know. Have fun......... 
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Heywood Jablome
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | Manual is on its way. It covers a bunch of chassis's. Just remember your's is a DPTV305. Any problems, let me know. Have fun......... |
Thanks!
Now lets' see if I can fly in like some kind of Messiah in flip-flops and save this RP P16 tube just as I've saved three P19s and three P16s (from FP stuff.)
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: |
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And now for The RRRRRREST of the Story!
Put eyes on the set in question: The red tube output is fine... The TV repair guy that wants to collect the set for repair condemned the red tube based on the owners description: Geometry is out of whack.
Looks like the red top and bottom bow at the very least is severely tweaked: R does not match G&B by at least 20% at the left-right centerline, at the top and bottom extremes.
Took a few pics which I will post in the AM I hope, but my first impression is STKs. Any thoughts?
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Heywood Jablome
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Attached is a pic of the red geometry problem... Simply replace the STKs with -180s and be done with it?
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| stefuel wrote: | | I'm comming over and letting the air out of your tires every nite until you put the Quee back together. |
Two tubes down, one to go. I'll be stripping and ripping tonight and will start rebuilding the thing this week.
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macgyver655
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More then likely the convergence ic's. I'm pretty sure the current upgrade for whats in that set is STK394-160E's but let me check my notes later.
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macgyver655
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Let me just clarify my last post. Its more likely the ic's but there are other components that can cause it but all within the convergence section (resistor's). Also did you check the solder joints on the convergence ic's. This is very common and sometimes all that is needed is to resolder. I'll still double check the ic numbers for you later.
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Poked around but did not have my multi-meter or much else in the way of tools... AND the service manual was locked in a phone which requires MS ActiveSync 4.5 to get out (some bahstahd stole my thumbdrive so I dumped it on my phone, but then could not get it into my laptop... The whole exercise started to turn silly so I bailed.)
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stefuel
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One quick test for the STK is to take something non metalic and put pressure on each pin as it enters the STK's body. I've seen them fall right out as they come unsoldered inside the IC. Go out for a drink and come back with one of those little straws 
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Heywood Jablome
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| stefuel wrote: | | One quick test for the STK is to take something non metalic and put pressure on each pin as it enters the STK's body. I've seen them fall right out as they come unsoldered inside the IC. Go out for a drink and come back with one of those little straws |
If I go out for a drink I'll stay out!
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