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ilias
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: What Range 0-255 or 16-235? |
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I have a PIONEER DVR-550 player, and DVDO VP30 Scaler, if set them (both machines) in full range color (0-255 PC) the brightness must set too high, in the range of (26-235 VIDEO) the brightness and contrast is OK! But what is the correct setting?
My PJ is SONY G70 CRT with HDFury play in 1080p/60Hz!
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Gino
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Great link Tom!
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Thank's Tom!!!!
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jask
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Thanks, great article.
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ilias
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I setup everything for 0-255 (PC) and i see little upgrade in the image!! ok! but why i like the 16-235 (VIDEO) image more? the new image is little dark, and the brightness of DVDO is high! the white images in TV program is very white!
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Gino
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What I gathered from the article is you should be setting up everything to VIDEO levels
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ilias
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I put them all in VIDEO format!!! Now i think to bye a Panasonic bdp 30 blue ray! how best picture i can get?
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garyfritz
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The article indicates that ALL video content we use (DVDs, BluRay, etc) is stored in 16-235 format, so you should display it the same way. It also says you should get a source of blacker-than-black (DVE, or the THX Optimizer on any THX disk), and if you can raise the brightness and see the BTB signal, you've got it set right.
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ilias
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| garyfritz wrote: | | The article indicates that ALL video content we use (DVDs, BluRay, etc) is stored in 16-235 format, so you should display it the same way. It also says you should get a source of blacker-than-black (DVE, or the THX Optimizer on any THX disk), and if you can raise the brightness and see the BTB signal, you've got it set right. |
Yes i do that, my setup 0-255 is whith the THX OPTIMIZER, but the image is little darker, lost some details in dark, and the brightness in the SCALER is very high, then i back in the VIDEO 16-235. I think is better for my eyes!!
But all this setup again because IFB-FULLHD HDMI 1.3 !!!! now i have the HDFury, the card comes September-Octomber.
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Brian Hampton
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After reading that....
I'm setting up for Video Levels.
I believe the PS3 re-maps RGB when set to full and I guess it does a fantastic job of it but Video levels seems "correct" so I'm going to set that up.
-Brian
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stefuel
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I wonder if you did the blacker than black adjustment for R, G and B individually to get each color to just pass it then combine them for a 20 IRE color temp test how it would measure out VS how it would actually look shadow detail wise?
I wonder how many would prefer more detail in the lower end VS accurate color
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| stefuel wrote: | I wonder if you did the blacker than black adjustment for R, G and B individually to get each color to just pass it then combine them for a 20 IRE color temp test how it would measure out VS how it would actually look shadow detail wise?
I wonder how many would prefer more detail in the lower end VS accurate color |
My older plasma is like that. Plenty of detail in the low end, but it's all green! 
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