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alanxray · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Goergia

I have little experience and even less knowledge.

The unit has the control panel that is 'attached' and a second 'remote' that has the command switch I can switch the unit on and off with either control.

I cannot get the unit to go into 'Service Control' mode, and it powers up when I switch the AC switch to the on position.

I presumed from some of the text in the manual that the unit wouldn't power up until you pressed the 'on' button on the control panel, so I had the thought that these two things may be related.

" Enter - Enter - up - down - Enter" isn't doing a thing for me.

Any advice ?

mike calcott · Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 307 Location: Australia

make sure that you are going up down not down up

winduptoy · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject:

Is the menu showing when you tried this. If so, try it with no menu items showing...should work.

-W

Zebu Fellenz · Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2567

Do you have status on?

alanxray · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Goergia

Zebu had the right answer, when I pressed the Status "ON" button, I was able to enter the "Service Control" mode.

THEN, when I started trying to reset the registration to factory default, it displayed "NOT APPLICABLE" across the bottom of the screen.

More help...???

Thanks to all,

Alan

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:52 am Post subject:

I'm still wondering about the whole "powers on with the main power switch" issue. That still the case? That's not right.

As for the other issue, are you pressing "zone" for instance, then pressing reset?

SC

alanxray · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Goergia

Mr. Crabb,

This evening, after I read Zebu's reply, I went to the unit and it powered up normally, so I'm thinking that the fans came on last night, because the unit was warm, had been operating for a while.

Restated, tonight, when it was cold, I started it with the "ON" button on the remote.

Thanks so much for the "ZONE" tip, I'm going to go try it right now.

Alan

alanxray · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Goergia

Mr. Crabb,

I Power the unit.

Press the Status "ON" button

Enter, Enter, Up, Down, Enter, then select "YES" and press enter again.

THEN if I press "R", "G", or "B" at the bottom of the remote I get "Not Applicable"

I pressed "Zone" and got the same message.

I pressed "Reset" and got the same...

I appreciate all help.

Alan

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:30 am Post subject:

Weird. It sounds like you're really not in service man mode. If you press "MENU" after you should be in service man mode, is there a small "S" at the top/left of the screen, above the "menu bar"?

If you're really in service man mode, any of the buttons along the bottom of the remote (size, lin, key, pin, bow, zone) should bring up that mode with an internal test pattern on the screen. Is that not happening? You just keep getting "not applicable"?

SC

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

alanxray · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Goergia

I entered "Service Cotrol" mode, then pressed the menu button, and there it is, an "S" in the upper left corner of the screeen.

So, I turned off the menu and when I pressed the reset button, or anything else that would be a service function, I get the "Not Applicable" message.

If I have to see it a thousand time, I have about 985 to go....

.....My aim here is to reset registration to factory default. Any ideas ?
Alan

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject:

Dragan, you're right. I didn't even remember the G70 having that option, but it does indeed. It's in the "SERVICE SETTING" submenu, and is called "DIRECT POWER". Obviously, this machine is set to "ON".

OK, Alan. Try this for me - because, this isn't adding up. After you've done the "enter enter up down enter" thing and answered yes. Press the menu key and make sure the "s" is there. If it is, then press "MENU" again to exit the menu. Then, before you press anything else, press the "CENT" key and see if get a pattern on the screen. If that works, try pressing the SIZE, LIN, or SKEW buttons.

SC

PS - I'd turn that "direct power" setting off, since I think a power interruption would force a power-on condition when service was restored. Not a good thing, eh?

alanxray · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Goergia

Mr. Crabb,

The 'S' was there when the menu was displayed. I did as you suggested, and pressed the centering button next after the menu was closed, and a centering pattern was displayed, and I was able to use the Lin, Skew and indeed Reset.

Now I think I have to read the manual some more, before I become smart enough to ask another question.

In the mean time, I will ask a question anyway.

Before I learned this much, and I was just trying to center the pattern of the Red and Blue tubes to the pattern of the Green tube, I could get a fair alignment of the Red to the Green, and the vertical alignment of the Blue to the other two was not bad, but the horizontal aspect of the pattern from the blue tube was "wide right" and I could not move it far enough to the left .

That's why I started trying to work my way through the set-up in the manual.

My question: Does any of this suggest to you that there is a large problem that cannot be resolved with the set-up process ?

Thanks again,

Alan

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

cbe317 · Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 214 Location: Thunderbolt, GA

Alan,

Where in GA are you?

If you are close to me, I would be willing to come by and help you out.
I'm sure there are a few others who could as well.

Let me know,

C.

ecrabb

alanxray · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Goergia

Mr. Crabb,

Many thanks, and thanks to Dragen, Zebu and CBE for the cooperative spirit. Clearly my knowledge bucket is closer to empty than full. My career has been in controls, without a lot of opportunity to embrace this kind of technology.

My first and only other machine was an old 1040, and there weren't a lot of options for setting the thing up.

As far as 1080P, won't that take a significant modification, or some external hardware ?

Arnold Schwarzenegger said " I'll be back"

Douglas MacArthur said " I shall return"

I'm saying, " I know I ain't done, yet"

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:

alanxray · Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Goergia

Mr. Crabb,

Bought it 3rd hand from a guy outside of Asheville, He was a software guy, and ( by his own admission) had no chance of making it work.

He was going to 'give up' buy an LCD projector. It had the issue with the blue not lining up, from the beginning, and I've been concerned that this was a $ 500 mistake. Your comments, along with the others have encouraged me to expect that it is just a $ 500 CHALLENGE.

Best regards,

Alan

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

I thought the Sony was pretty hard to set-up. Reading the manual goes something like this. Start on page one, read a few sentences that tell you to jump to page 87 which then tells you to do something but if you don't know how to do that then thumb back to page 54, etc. Unless you can memorize the whole thing then you will need to just hold a pen-light between your teeth and try to read the manual while your working on it. Definitely a challenging process even with previous CRT experience.