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Want this to be the last iron I ever buy - WES51?
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:37 am    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
OK, ya know, I haven't really imposed any limits of topics here, but I think I need to ban talking about equipment that is better than mine.

All this looking at high end soldering irons has me aroused..


Would you say you're 30 watt's, 60 watt's or 100 watt's arroused? Laughing

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:39 am    Post subject:

Tinman wrote:
You'll be surprised just what that little tip can heat up. Don't assume the tip is junk, either. Also, you can buy used ones. They can, but rarely go bad. The neat thing is that it'll never be too hot or cold to do the job.

The really neat thing is that you can always expand the system as you need it.


Hey, let's all post pics of ourselves with our high end irons and piss Curt off! LOL!

Curt, get a metcal. You'll wonder HOW you worked without one. Trust me.

Marc


Well we could all chip in and get 'em a Metcal for his birthday Smile

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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:35 am    Post subject:

Only 30 watts worth.

BUT....as Tinman says above, I'm temperature controlled and last a long long time. That makes for a happy g/f.
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
Tinman wrote:
You'll be surprised just what that little tip can heat up. Don't assume the tip is junk, either. Also, you can buy used ones. They can, but rarely go bad. The neat thing is that it'll never be too hot or cold to do the job.

The really neat thing is that you can always expand the system as you need it.


Hey, let's all post pics of ourselves with our high end irons and piss Curt off! LOL!

Curt, get a metcal. You'll wonder HOW you worked without one. Trust me.

Marc


Well we could all chip in and get 'em a Metcal for his birthday Smile


I'd go in on that.

Marc

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject:

dculberson wrote:
Lyd, that's the same model as I use and it works great. You should be able to do tube amp connections just fine, especially with a larger tip - that power supply can sink a decent amount of current. The tip looks okay in the picture, assuming that's the one you'd get with it.

I do have a few extra SP200 tips. I will look at what I have tonight and let you know if I can part with any. Unfortunately I don't have any extra holders!


I did my first practice soldering with it tonight, and it is pretty nice.

Totally the wrong tip though, way too small, and in the low-temp 500 series besides. I struggled a bit to avoid cold joints. Be nice to have if I ever need tweak some surface-mount stuff, maybe, but otherwise not much good for me.



I want to get a 600 series tip for general through-hole stuff, including the projector boards, and a bigger one, maybe 700 series, for working on that amp.

Any suggestions on shape and size?

My own thoughts were leaning toward a 1/16 30° chisel in the 600 deg. temp for the general stuff (SSC-637A), and a 1/8 90° Chisel (SSC-613A) or 30° Chisel "Extra Large" (SSC-617A)for the big stuff, and I can't make up my mind about going to the 700 on that one (which would be 713A or 717A).

It would be nice to just get everything, but they're not cheap, to be sure.

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject:

I use these for really small things like pins that are 10 thousandths of an inch apart. and soldering 30guage wire to them.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/3-COOPER-INDUSTRIES-ELECTRIC-SOLDER-TIPS-9011-NEW_W0QQitemZ250123687231QQihZ015QQcategoryZ109557QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
but for the vast majority of things I use a the standard rather fat one.
they don't make tips for my iron anymore. I have to try and find some of the standard ones fast....
to be honest though, the last tip i had lasted for over 10 years and I used it quite a lot.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject:

Your post reminded me to check my tip stock! Turns out I have a variety of tips but not a lot of each. The only one I have extra of is the 722A which is a .02" "conical sharp." It's a 700 degree tip, but Metcal has this to say about it: "Fine point tip cartridge for SMT touch-up or fine wire applications. Not for general through-hole."

I think my favorite tip is the 725A. I find myself just leaving that in the machine and using it all the time. I guess it is a little hot, and soldering chips with it requires some care, so a 625A might be a good compromise. But it's a nice, compact shape that can still sink a lot of heat into a decent sized solder joint.

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:53 am    Post subject:

I hope I can find some more tips. I love that iron.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject:

I've bought tons of tips off ebay. No problem so far with the used ones.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject:

dculberson wrote:
Your post reminded me to check my tip stock! Turns out I have a variety of tips but not a lot of each. The only one I have extra of is the 722A which is a .02" "conical sharp." It's a 700 degree tip, but Metcal has this to say about it: "Fine point tip cartridge for SMT touch-up or fine wire applications. Not for general through-hole."

I think my favorite tip is the 725A. I find myself just leaving that in the machine and using it all the time. I guess it is a little hot, and soldering chips with it requires some care, so a 625A might be a good compromise. But it's a nice, compact shape that can still sink a lot of heat into a decent sized solder joint.


Does your 725 actually have a chisel shape? I just got a 625, which should be identical except for the temp, and it is completely conical. These are supposed to be 1/32" 30 Deg. chisel tips.

Trying to figure out if Metcal screwed up, or what. The tip is stamped SSC-625A, but it has no chiseliness to it whatsoever. I even checked under magnification!




It is maybe very vaguely flattened at the tip, but it sure doesn't seem to resemble the diagram.



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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject:

There was a thread over at HTguide talking about the CSI Deluxe Station for $40.
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