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Digital Video Essentials HD Basics if very Pro CRT!

 
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Brian Hampton



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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Digital Video Essentials HD Basics if very Pro CRT!

Hi,

I know there is another thread about DVE but I thought this subject deserved it's own thread.

I've been watching the new DVE HD Basics disc and the narrator in the tutorials goes on and on forever about the greatness of CRT based monitors.

He mentions at one point there was a display device that let you see the potential of HD and that was CRT.

In the test patterns they remind you again and again the goal is to try to get your display to behave like a CRT.

They often refer to the studios in which content is created and picture quality established via CRT.

It's perhaps self serving but it's just music to my ears. I may watch it again just to bask in the glory of truth it represents.

How lucky we are to know CRT based displays... long live CRT!

-Brian
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kal
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject:

People in the know simply know better! Smile

To quote Gary Reber (Editor-in-Chief and Publisher of Widescreen Review) who recently had this to say about the CRT projectors they use in their two reference theaters via email:

"We love our 9-inch CRT projectors, even though we have our pick of the leading edge D-ILA, SXRD, and DLP projectors, which we also have on-hand at Widescreen Review. We are installing a factory-new Sony VPH-G90 this Friday and over the weekend, as a replacement for our broken one."

The other projector is a Runco 1200 (rebadged Barco Cine9). I may have to pick up DVE myself - pretty cheap at $18.95. Which version were you watching?

[HD DVD] Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics (DVD International)
[BLU-RAY] Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics (DVD International)

Kal

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Brian Hampton



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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject:

Kal,

The Blu one.

-Brian
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Person99



Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject:

Well, this person wasn't happy:
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000V6LST0/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Seems to suggest that this "easy to use" is not much better in navigation than the "classic" and original HD DVD version. Plus, he seems to suggest that you have some of Joe Kane's arrogance thrown in for good measure that you didn't have to tolerate before!

Wish they would have done a blu version of the orginal HD DVD version (with the audio fixed).

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Brian Hampton



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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject:

Quoted from that review "And the paper holder itself is a tool to check the grayscale. AWSOME INCLUSION! "

....? I don't think that fella knows what he's doing.

He whines about not having a pattern to adjust Hue but that should be required for any type of HD signal.

Anyway,.. I'm loving DVD HD Basics. Well worth it if you ask me.

-Brian
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject:

Update: The Blu-ray version seems to be on sale at Amazon - only $16.95! I just ordered it...

Link: [BLU-RAY] Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics (DVD International)

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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject:

Holy crap that was fast!

I ordered the Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics blu-ray disc on Thursday, it shipped Thursday night and arrived today (5 days later) in Canada. This is because they don't actually ship from the US - it ships from Canada so there are no taxes, duties or extra charges. How they get around this I have no idea, but it's been like this for years.

Now to give it a spin!


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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject:

Hey,

One thing I like about this new version of DVE is the resolution checking patterns.

I guess part of the reason I like them is at 1080p everything looks clean and resolved on my G70!!

I guess that's why every time I dumped back to 1080i for a while thinking that was the "proper" limitation of the pj the occasional scan lines that I would spot lead me back to 1080p. (They would give it a "video" type of look rather then looking film like which is part of the attraction of progressive scan anyway.)

Anyway,.. I'm stunned a bit by this. I figured my Pj wasn't fully resolving 1080p but it still looked sharp and good so I went with it. But,.. these test patterns seem to indicate it does resolve all the info at 1080p and I can't wait to spend more time with this disc and try to get even more out of my pj. (I'm sure I can still get more from Grey Scale, Uniformity, Geometry, and Convergence.)

-Brian
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:23 am    Post subject:

Test patterns at 1080p are one thing, but moot if movies themselves look soft. How do they look at 1080p? If they look good, awesome!! I have read in several places of G70s successfully running 1080p Smile
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