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DARNOLD



Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Location: St. Louis

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: okay

"The image will always look focused when looking directly into the lens."

that's the problem, i can't focus the help text image in the green lens looking directly into it

"There is an electronic focus, as described in the manual, that needs to be set if the image is NOT focused looking into the lenses or directly at the tubes."

i'll look for that rigtht now but if you can, help me out.............

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DARNOLD



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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:49 am    Post subject: huh?

help text now appears to be foriegn language
wth, i didn't do anything to change that
HELP!............

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DARNOLD



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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject: can't i

can't i reset the unit to "default" orig specs, set up a screen at 72" throw
and start from there?

does anyone read chinese?

...........

i should have another vicadin and just go to bed


single lens here i come?



naaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject:

The electronic focus consists of three out of six adjustment pots(usually adjustable by hand or with a small philips screwdriver) on a single block. There will be adjustments marked for screen and focus just like on the back of a regular CRT TV, but three sets of course. You slowly turn the focus pot while looking into the lens until the image becomes sharp. Set brightness and contrast to a medium level to do this. Do not touch the screen controls for now.

As far as the language issue goes.. That should be in the manual. No experience with ECP's in particular so I do ot know how to change it back. I do have plenty of common knowledge to help you with these other issues though of course Smile

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DARNOLD



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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: THANKS SONYNUT

i guess the end of my pint of bacardi tells me its time for bed.........

i appreciate your responses and will continue in my endeavors to have an ECP 3100 in good working order

good night for now, and thanks again

HAPPY EASTER!

Dave

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gonyr



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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject:

The image will be shaky or jumpy without a signal being input.

There is a red button on the back of one of the boards (remove rear panel) that will give you a reset to default settings. There's a picture of it in the layout I linked you to earlier. I'm not sure if it will change the display language or not.

For your focus issue, you might want to try putting it on a cart and moving it back and forth to at least get an image you can work with on the screen while you learn how to use it.

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DARNOLD



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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: THANKS GUYS

i appreciate the input fellas and admire the help to a newbie

okay, if i understand correctly i should be able to "re-set" my ECP via the red button on the CPU board
to do this i power up the unit, hold down the reset button on the keypad and press the reset button on the CPU board
if done correctly the unit will shut down
upon power-up, should be reset to "factory" specs

in this situation, should i be able to focus the "help" text in the green lens, looking directly into the lens, with the rear wingnut focus on the green?
and if still out of focus
adjust the green focus on the "older style focusing board"?

waiting to do something...................

help please...............

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DARNOLD



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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:16 am    Post subject: well, i did it

i reset the unit
am able to get focused image looking into green lens at help menu
also can see my desktop from computer input

i think i'm on to something.................

however, the text is now up-right but its reversed from left to right
no plugs on the deflection boards "show" the reverse scan labels

how do i reverse the text?

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gonyr



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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject:

It sounds like you're trying to focus by looking down the lens at the tube. You should be focusing the image onto a screen or wall, by loosening the wingnuts and adjusting the barrel of the lens. Look at the screen/wall, not the tube face. If you can't get a reasonably sized image on your screen, move the projector closer or further away as needed.
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DARNOLD



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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: still messin' with it...............

"It sounds like you're trying to focus by looking down the lens at the tube."

Yes, I was. I needed to adjust the green focus on the focus board in order to get a clear image in the tube face. Now at 6' I am able to get a focused image on screen using rear wingnut.

After having re-set the pj, I can now see my desktop pc image on the screen, somewhat...... Lots of adjustments to make. This thing appears to have been ceiling mounted with a pretty lenghty throw and must have been at some offset angle to the screen. The lenses appear to be shifted to one side.

I'm learning slowly, but surely, and appreciate you guys and this site.

Who knows, given time I may be known as "Tweaker" Very Happy

thanks again

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gonyr



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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject:

Sounds like you're on the right track. Probably your best bet is to walk through the guided setup in the help menu. It's pretty straightforward and will get you a watchable, if not perfect, image. After that point, you can start learning the details of the projector and start the never ending process of tweaking to your heart's content.
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DARNOLD



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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: HANG IT UP?

thanks gonyr

last night i ran thru the set-up using the help menus and the "book"
with green, i was able to "square" the help text and border, set focus, bow, pin and key
then comes red, and its nowhere near "squared"

Q. is there separate bow, pin and key for each lens?

disregarding the out-of-whack border, i focused as best i could
when it came to the green and red together to align the "cross" i can only swivel/adjust red left to right
it is not aligned up and down with the green and is lower than the green

blue turned out the same - out-of-whack border, lower image than green
also, (looking into lens) blue appears way too bright around the edges and inward towards center
the center 15% or so of the image focuses and is somewhat "bright" but the rest of the help text is too bright to accurately focus

Q. is there a way to adjust the height (up-down axis) of the red and blue lenses?

i can "lift" on the front of the blue and red lens housings "carefully" and align the cross, but there's no way to hold that position as this is actually distorting the unit housing. i am working with the pj on a flat desktop surface with covers removed. this unit was ceiling hung in its previous life but has sat upright (with no adjustable feet included) for several years. the unit itself seems "loosy" but i don't see where the covers would have any affect on the rigidity of the housing itself. i wonder if having the feet at the four corners would aloow the unit housing to "sag" under its own weight and where would that leave me? i'm going to pick up some replacement adjustable feet like off a stove or the like as soon as i can verify the thread size tonight. it might help. i also need to chek tightness on all screws on the housing.

i'll keep "tinkering" for now

but i can't wait to get to the "TWEAKING" part!

Laughing

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gonyr



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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: HANG IT UP?

No problem, glad I could help. I'm surprised I remember much of anything about my ecp. I only had it for about 6 months.

As far as I can recall, no separate bow, pin, key for each tube. If I had to guess, I'd say that the out of whack red and blue are coming at least partly from not being totally square and level in relation to your screen.

There's no up/down adjustment for red and blue. There is a way to fix it so they're even, but I don't remember what it was. I think it was either a vertical position pot that can be turned, or adjusting the magnetics on the tube (keeping the tabs the same distance apart, and rotating them as a pair).

No idea what the issue is with your blue brightness. My blue never looked well focused - I just lived with it.
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