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voodoo7869



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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: OT Toshiba to end HD-DVD production

Shocked Holy sh*t I really hoped hd-dvd would win. oh well time to buy overpriced unfinished crap. Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil

The article is located here http://www.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/ it is called Toshiba to end HD-DVD production

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Brooklyn



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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject:

Tis a shame, I was hoping for HD-DVD as well. This has been slowly coming for the past few months though.
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject:

I've noticed a change in Sony's marketing as well. Movie ads now read/say:

"Available on XXXXX date in Blu Ray High Def and DVD."

Seems to me that this is capitalizing somewhat on the HD DVD name, and has the ignorant consumer thinking 'Hmm, Blu Ray is that new HD format."

Or maybe it's just me?
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Heywood Jablome



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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject:

Its' ALL MY FAULT.

I knew the war would be decided as soon as I bought in... Open-box model A30, $360. One week later was the Warner announcement, one week after that the A30s were $250 at the same bestbuy...

Now I need to decide if I want to start collecting media or write off the whole thing (so far I've only got the three that came-with, and two besides that I bought retail.)
I'll probably write in to claim the five free, then use it as an HD test source or scaling DVD player for the testlab/PJ project bench.

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject:

I dont care....I have the LG bh100 Very Happy

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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject:

I'll probably look for that kiler deal on an XA2.
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Mad Mr H



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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject:

Im waiting for the official FULL detail release..................


I have over 250 HD DVD's and even if Tosh pull out they will still all play on my players tomorrow.............

So its no bid deal,

I have 70+ BLUR rays as well, but the quality is poor, technology is still not complete and that STUPID loading logos make even my Sony S1 look like a cheap childs toy !!!
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
I've noticed a change in Sony's marketing as well. Movie ads now read/say:

"Available on XXXXX date in Blu Ray High Def and DVD."

Seems to me that this is capitalizing somewhat on the HD DVD name, and has the ignorant consumer thinking 'Hmm, Blu Ray is that new HD format."

Or maybe it's just me?


No, Sony had to do that, because unlike HD DVD, "Blu-ray Disc" doesn't say DICK about what the product actually is or does. I kept hearing how BD had so much cooler of a name, but unlike Blu-ray, at least the uninitiated had a frickin' clue what the hell HD DVD was when he/she heard it.

HD DVD. Sounds cool... I know what HD is and I know what DVD is... must be a DVD that does HD or something. Blu-ray Disc? What's that, something from Star Wars? "And, then, the bad guy fired a Blu-ray Disc at the good guy... but he missed... and then the good guy fired a Red-ray Phaser at the Blue-ray Disc and it exploded and killed the bad guy! It was so F'in cool!".

So now we have "Now available on DVD and Blu-ray High Definition."

I've been vindicated.

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KennyG



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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: OT Toshiba to end HD-DVD production

voodoo7869 wrote:
Shocked Holy sh*t I really hoped hd-dvd would win. oh well time to buy overpriced unfinished crap. Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil

The article is located here http://www.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/ it is called Toshiba to end HD-DVD production




Funny, it doesn't seem the prices between HD-DVD and BD players are actually THAT different, I can find HD-DVD players that are more expensive than several BD players...and your right, time to jump into the blu water!!!!
It's also time for the masses to jump in and get our prices down to where they belong!!! Thumbs Up
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Heywood Jablome



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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: OT Toshiba to end HD-DVD production

KennyG wrote:
...and your right, time to jump into the blu water!!!!


You mean "Drink the blueberry koolaid!"


KennyG wrote:

It's also time for the masses to jump in and get our prices down to where they belong!!! Thumbs Up



Gawd I hope so. I only pulled the trigger on HD-DVD because I got an unexpected bonus.

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Fujifrontier



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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject:

I suppose my comment in the other thread was a bit ignorant... I don't know much about either format but I'm just happy that Sony didn't have another Betamax; but at least now I know which HD format to buy if I ever decide
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject:

Here is another story: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2261169,00.asp

I never bought either format. If the Toshiba players get cheap enough along with software firesales, then I may pick one up.
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jask



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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject:

Wow!! finally! now we consumers will see some real advancement....Sony will put some money into improving the problems they continue to have,rather than wasting it telling us how much better than HD-DVD they could be. And of course we can all look forward to lower prices on hardware and media,because monopolies have historically be to the benefit of....um..never mind.
I really hope they refocus the format to consumer HD recorders,a smaller market-but still useful and consumers have all kinds of HD material that might still give this technology a home.

So glad I bought the combo player Neutral
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MikeEby



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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject:

jask wrote:
And of course we can all look forward to lower prices on hardware and media,because monopolies have historically be to the benefit of....um..never mind.
So glad I bought the combo player Neutral


Yes, I agree I don't see how eliminating competition will lower prices?
I need Kenny to expain that one to again.

I have a combo too, but it is sad to see HD-DVD go away.

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject:

I'm buying as many HD-DVD's that I can get my hands on. sing's :Pack rat fever ( imgine cat sratch fever with new words )
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timf



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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
I'm buying as many HD-DVD's that I can get my hands on.


Same here, love that HD DVD is region free and I can purchase disks globally and not have to worry about region coding, so am looking forward to buying up big cheaply.

HD DVD is and will always remain the best out of the two and it's sad to see it hit the skids.

Sony obviously could not afford to lose yet another format war and were prepared to pay for it, not in product improvement mind you but in incentives to studios to change formats.

One wonders if those that abandoned ship will still think it was a good idea if the issues of BR aren't fix soon and consumer interest in HD plateaus.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject:

timf wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
I'm buying as many HD-DVD's that I can get my hands on.


Same here, love that HD DVD is region free and I can purchase disks globally and not have to worry about region coding, so am looking forward to buying up big cheaply.

HD DVD is and will always remain the best out of the two and it's sad to see it hit the skids.

Sony obviously could not afford to lose yet another format war and were prepared to pay for it, not in product improvement mind you but in incentives to studios to change formats.

One wonders if those that abandoned ship will still think it was a good idea if the issues of BR aren't fix soon and consumer interest in HD plateaus.


Isn't the 1st one they've won? Let's see

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deronmoped



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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject:

Thank the Lord that we do not have the federal government telling us what format we have to buy and use.

What is it, supposeably in 2009 we will all have to have TV's that only will receive a HD signal. Yeah they would be telling us that the only players we could purchase is a BR player, "gotta wein them there consumers off of SD DVD's, they just plum do not know what is good for them". I'm sure all the sellers of BR would just love to force all the consumers to buy their stuff, who knows, maybe that is the next step in their plan, start to only offer the latest movies in BR.

Then of course, there is the chip they will implant in your head that only allows you to watch the movie.

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject:

Deron,

In '09, spectrum currently devoted to analog VHF/UHF broadcast will be reused, and to watch broadcast TV, consumers will be required to have a receiver that receives the 'new' ATSC digital signal. The mandate does NOT mandate HDTV - it mandates digital. Big difference. So, yes - on the cutoff date in 2009, if you still have only an analog TV with rabbit ears and no digital set, then you're going to need to get a $60 box (w/$40 rebate, BTW) so you can watch TV.

The reason the feds can force that is because the RF spectrum is public, not private. What format you choose to play in your home player is private and is therefore up to you and no-one to tell you you can't use... except for maybe the MPAA and studios. Rolling Eyes

Now, if we could just get the legislators back on the side of the consumer instead of in the pockets of the studios so we could get a little fair use back.

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deronmoped



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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject:

SC

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I knew it was something they were going to force us to change. I would be all for it if I could get someone else to buy me a new 103" Plasma, but all we get is a rebate on some dumpy little set top box Sad

I wonder if the backers of HD DVD figured that the format was not worth fighting for, better to invest into downloadable media. BR may have won over HD DVD, but will they now make any money selling the BR stuff?

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