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fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

Well I got lucky this weekend with a Dec 99 Christie 9500 LC Ultra that was for sale on Videogon in Toronto. The projector was listed at 5000 odd hours, and no pics of the tubes, and just a pic of the back of the case. I was a little bit leary, and would not have bought it if I couldn't check it out. The seller didn't want to send pics of the tubes, because the projector was installed and he could not get it down or get the lenses off for a pic.

So I decided that I would make the drive and check it out. For the price he was asking and the hours on the machine, I was expecting worn tubes, or more. So I took my brother along for a hand, and we lifted the projector down, and I removed the green lens. To my suprise there was no wear on the green it is a 9, and all the tubes are the same!!! I said that the tubes must have been replaced, but he said they were originals, and the reason they are so good was for the first 4500 hours the projector was installed with 3 other 9500's on one screen showing black and white gun camera footage, and they never ran the contrast any higher than 15! No wonder they look like they have less than a 1000 on them. It even has GT17 lenses, the thing is clean as whip inside and out!

Not a bad score for $3500.....

This will be an excellent replacement for the G70 Laughing

The only thing that it needs is a Red C-Element and Glycol change. I can't wait to get it hanging.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:02 am Post subject:

Nice! Congradulations!

overclkr · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 4227

SCREENSHOTS!!!!!!!! Thumbs Up

Cliff

fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

Once I get her hanging there will be screenshots for sure.....Just hope there half as good as yours Very Happy

ecrabb · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:36 am Post subject:

Wow, sweet! Sounds like a really nice machine. I worked on a couple of installations that had Christie 9500LC Ultras in them of that exact vintage.

I'm curious - question for you Canucks... Are there a lot of those machines floating around up there near their Kitchener birthplace, or did a lot more of them get shipped out to the US?

Congrats. Upgrade time!

SC

benareeno · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1614 Location: ottawa, canada

I'll be interested to hear if you feel the pic is an upgrade..or big upgrade.

I had an XGLC and it was every bit as sharp as a 9500 and it had better colors to boot....that's not to say the 9500 isn't great, because it is. I'm curious to hear your observations.

Ben

fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

If the picture quality is just a minor upgrade from the G70 it will be amazing, it is the geometry and lenses that will be the biggest advantage for me.

I painted the case last night, and the new C-element should be here tomorrow. I will try and get some pics up.

fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

Well after trying to remove the glycol with a couple different syringes, I have discovered that it is a ROYAL PITA! Why the hell are those holes so small Twisted Evil

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So I may have come up with a better way to do it, and a lot more fun. I used a automotive vacuum pump that are used for bleeding brake systems, with the fluid canister. The canister holds 120 mL, and comes with various adapters. I could not find a hose with the right OD to fit in the hole, so I took some 18 AWG wire, removed all the copper from it, and just used the jacket for the tube. All you do is hook everything up, pump the vacuum to 30 inches, and walk away, 10 minutes later the canister is full. Saves a lot of pulling on a syringe! I did 300ml in about 15 minutes, no spills, and no work Smile

I will see if I can get some pics of the setup when I do the next tube.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject:

Hey I was thinking of doing that with a manual brake bleader. I need to bleed my NEC's(Runco) tubes. I noticed lst night there's no air bubble.

I also have a big syringe used to prime continuous ink jet systems. I bet that would speed things up too. Hmmmm

fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

I tried a large syringe, but I had no luck drawing that quantity of glycol threw the small tube. The brake bleeder worked the best for me.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject:

I'll post a picture. It has check valves and is set up to pump air. It's pretty cool actually.

JustGreg · Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3098 Location: Kenosha, WI

And the brake bleeder will stand up to the corrosive nature of the glycol. The best pump to use would be a peristaltic hose pump. Nothing to ever corrode. Simply toss the rubber hose when it's reached EOL after x number of uses.

Today’s heavy-duty peristaltic pumps are designed to handle highly abrasive slurries, viscous or shear sensitive fluids, and aggressive chemicals that would normally result in severe damage to rotors, stators, gears, mechanical seals and check valves of other more traditional positive displacement designs.

Greg

fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

The glycol never reaches the pump, the lines and resovoir are plastic so no problems there.

JustGreg · Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3098 Location: Kenosha, WI

Quickie search on ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/COLE-PALMER-MASTERFLEX-35-TUBING-PERISTALTIC-PUMP-HEAD_W0QQitemZ260203962367QQihZ016QQcategoryZ78220QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It would need some reducers and a motor but.....it would be fun to play with....if I had an LC pj. Rolling Eyes

Here's another listing that's an entire kit...motor and all.
http://cgi.ebay.com/COLE-PARMER-Masterflex-Peristaltic-Tubing-Pump-System_W0QQitemZ200192939006QQihZ010QQcategoryZ78220QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Greg

Mark_A_W · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject:

It's easier to push air into a NEC tube, rather than try and suck glycol out. It helps if you can get both drain holes open, but sometimes you are lucky if you can one screw out!

fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

Now that would get it out quick:thumbsup:

If I was doing this all the time, it might be worth it.

Thanks for the link

fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

Well I got the Green drained and the C-Element out without hurting anything, just two more to go. I cannot believe the green tube, has anyone ever seen tubes this good with 5000+ hours on them...Wow.

Also here is some pics of the brake bleeder setup.

I have read somewhere that it is recommended to remove the contrast/color card from the slot above the CLM, is this true??

Thanks.

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

fireanimal · Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 231 Location: Stayner, ON

In this case I am glad I suck! Here is the write up I found on the contrast card, it is in the Mike Parker tips for the marquee??

"8. Contrast Correction Module

Remove the contrast modulation board (color correction module), right next to the ACON board (above the control module). This module is not in all Marquee's, look for it on the 8500, 8500LC. 9000, 9500LC.

This board will allow color correction in nine different zones. Much needed for multi-display commercial systems for edge matching and such, but not needed in video applications, and could effect the overall purity of the image – REMOVE IT!"

It makes sense to have, but I have no experience so far with Marquee's so I am not sure.

emdawgz1 · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 7949