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Winching pj's up'n'down

 
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ncc1701d



Joined: 08 Aug 2007
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Location: sweden

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Winching pj's up'n'down

I am looking for some way to get the pj up and down from the roof without the need for helping friends.

Was looking at the type of winch used on cars for winching boats and stuff.
But haven't found any that works the way i want. Either there is no "backward" winching on them or they are not
suitable for vertical lifts..

Then there are the rope and pulley stuff which i don't know how to do.
Or a chain thingie used for lifting car engines or heavy objects.. or.. or..


I have no flat roof. it's -- > A shaped.. hmm if you understand what i mean..

I need suggestions...
AND pictures so i understand Wink

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lyd



Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Location: Lake Mills, Wi

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: Winching pj's up'n'down

ncc1701d wrote:
I am looking for some way to get the pj up and down from the roof without the need for helping friends.

Was looking at the type of winch used on cars for winching boats and stuff.
But haven't found any that works the way i want. Either there is no "backward" winching on them or they are not
suitable for vertical lifts..

Then there are the rope and pulley stuff which i don't know how to do.
Or a chain thingie used for lifting car engines or heavy objects.. or.. or..

I need suggestions...
AND pictures so i understand Wink


The roof! Now that's serious. Wink

I used a small boat winch. You don't need it to ratchet backwards. This isn't a 4 ton yacht here, after all. The physics of the thing are such that it is no problem to lower it in a controlled fashion with very little effort. Just don't let go of the handle.

I'll edit a pic of my ridiculous temporary winch setup here in a moment, as soon as I find one.

As promised...



You can get some large versions of these here.

lyd

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nettwerkjohn



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Location: Blenheim, Marlborough, New Zealand

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject:

you could also use chain and s-hooks. just be careful if you do, i managed to destroy a mint ECP4500 when a hook slipped...hence the ruby
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Heywood Jablome



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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject:

I've got a boat winch in an adjacent closet... the cable runs above the sheetrock, turns about 110 degrees upward and back (a little) toward the source, and then turns downward to the PJ.
Look on AVS for "aero barco" and you'll see my installation.

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lyd



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Location: Lake Mills, Wi

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject:

Oh, I almost forgot, after the pictures above were taken I added a couple of guide pulleys to my Rube Goldberg contraption, which pretty much made it trouble free. Before that you had to horse the lines around a bit as you winched it up, to get them to spool nicely.



It's just two boards clamped into the doorway, no bolts at all except for the ones securing the winch and pulleys to the 2x6.

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Mark_A_W



Joined: 15 Mar 2006
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Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject:

I also use a boat winch, mounted in the roof cavity.

Just don't let go of the handle on the way down - there's not much load on it actually, it's not difficult.
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jask



Joined: 17 Mar 2006
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Location: kamloops BC

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject:

I also used the chain and "s" hook method,with the projector securely strapped to the lifting frame(just in case!)
How high do you need to lift the projector? I am assuming that if you have a peaked or angled ceiling in the room you are going to have some way of mounting it down from the actual ceiling?
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Elaine Benes



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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject:

This is what I use( http://www.handtrucks.com/material-lifts/hand-crank-winch-lifts/geniegl8materiallift.cfm ), but I bought it from ebay for $125...
It's a bigger investment than an inexpensive boat winch, but it has the advantage of being able to move the projector around when its raised. I installed my ancient Marquee 8000 alone several times using it, and just used it on a friends 8500LC. It was especially nice for the 8500LC because we discovered a glycol leak and had to take it down and back up a few times.
Also convenient when leveling the projector, taking it off the mount and returning it was very simple and easy.
Not sure about Sweden, but here you can rent them from just about any Rent-All for $20.-$40. generally. The first one I used I borrowed from a local hotel for nothing...
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ncc1701d



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Location: sweden

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject:

Thanks all.

I thought a boatwinch was a bad idea, but as many here use it i will try it out.

but the last one, the "truck" was a little overkill Wink

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ecrabb
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Joined: 13 Mar 2006
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TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject:

A Genie Lift isn't overkill! It's a super-sweet piece of equipment and handy as hell! I couldn't justify having one just sitting around (too much money even used), but there's really no reason to buy one, unless you're putting up and taking down projectors monthly or something.

If you're in any decent-sized town and have or can borrow a pickup, minivan or SUV, you should be able to rent a Genie Lift for $30 for a couple of hours or $50 or so for all day. Nothing to build, buy, assemble, or otherwise jury-rig. Set the projector on a piece of carpet on wood or something on the forks, hoist it up and bolt in place. It should take longer to go pick up and return the Genie Lift than it would to actually hang the projector.

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Elaine Benes



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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject:

If you know a heating contractor, they might have one you could just borrow too...

They *can* be moved around in a car with fold down rear seats and the use of a bungee cord too, btw...
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jask



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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject:

If the locoa rental shop does not have one,a lot of people who do office equipment or food service equipment installs use these as well.
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