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bbgh35
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: EXT-HD and HTPC |
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I am using an Invidia 6600gt videocard and 84.21 drivers, my problem is when switching between the Hdmi inputs (satellite and PC) the EXT-HD Colorspace Is wrong on the PC (huge green push) but easily corrected by pressing "display" button on the remote which as I understand toggles it between 444 and 442. This occurs every time I switch inputs. I can upgrade the nvidia drivers if someone can recommend another version...Thanks
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moome
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Display botton only display the digital video mode you are receiving, no change the source format.
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bbgh35
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for reply, all I can tell you is that when I switch back and forth between the inputs the htpc always displays the wrong colorspace and pressing the "display" button always corrects the problem. (This color issue has also been mentioned by Speedyandre in the "having problems with new EXT-HD thread" pg2) I can't be sure where the actual change is taking place, moome says it can't be the EXT-HD if that's true then the only thing I can think of is that pressing the "display" button is causing the videocard to modify it's output. Moome, does pressing "display" refresh the EDID?? This PC has worked flawessly for three years with moomes other products so I am hoping this may be just a driver issue. Has anyone else used a PC with the EXT-HD yet?
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moome
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| bbgh35 wrote: | | Thanks for reply, all I can tell you is that when I switch back and forth between the inputs the htpc always displays the wrong colorspace and pressing the "display" button always corrects the problem. (This color issue has also been mentioned by Speedyandre in the "having problems with new EXT-HD thread" pg2) I can't be sure where the actual change is taking place, moome says it can't be the EXT-HD if that's true then the only thing I can think of is that pressing the "display" button is causing the videocard to modify it's output. Moome, does pressing "display" refresh the EDID?? This PC has worked flawessly for three years with moomes other products so I am hoping this may be just a driver issue. Has anyone else used a PC with the EXT-HD yet? |
the display botton will not change video mode, it only display the video mode you receiving!
it is strange it will change color, when you get the box, it maybe different software in it!
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cliffnseattle
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In some playing around, I also noticed pressing the "display" button causes my projector (NEC 6PGXtra) to lose synch. I take it to mean the EXT-HD is changing the output to the projector, or some handshaking is lost between the EXT and the source.
Specifically, I press the "display" button, and:
"H4" is displayed on the EXT LED display.
The small amber light comes on (the one right above the printed "ON").
Projector clicks, loses synch, re-synchs (or sometimes goes to "unregistered signal").
This happens every time I press the "display" button.
I'm going to add this to the "Having Problems with News EXT-HD" thread, since I've been replying there every few days.
Cliff
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moome
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| cliffnseattle wrote: | In some playing around, I also noticed pressing the "display" button causes my projector (NEC 6PGXtra) to lose synch. I take it to mean the EXT-HD is changing the output to the projector, or some handshaking is lost between the EXT and the source.
Specifically, I press the "display" button, and:
"H4" is displayed on the EXT LED display.
The small amber light comes on (the one right above the printed "ON").
Projector clicks, loses synch, re-synchs (or sometimes goes to "unregistered signal").
This happens every time I press the "display" button.
I'm going to add this to the "Having Problems with News EXT-HD" thread, since I've been replying there every few days.
Cliff |
the Display button is for debug purpose, so please do not push it when normal using!
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garyfritz
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moome
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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ok! we will check! or you can send your all setup information and problem to moome@seed.net.tw,
we love to solve the problem for you!
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speedyandre
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I've hooked up 3 sources on the ext. box:
1 Dvdplayer on component
2 Tv cable decoder on hdmi
3 HT-pc on hdmi (dvi output GF6600GT)
Only when I switch from either input to the HT-pc the picture's black turns green and white turns into red.
The only way to correct the HT-pc's picture is pressing 'Display' on the remote.
It doesn't matter what resolution and refresh the HT-pc has, it turns green and red when choosing it's hdmi input.
I'm happy with the fact that the Display knob makes the HT-pc's display normal, but it's not normal that the green picture appears anyway 
Hopefully it has to do with the 'ringing' that will be suppressed, are there any results of the tests?
Btw, I've downloaded a tool that can read the edid and also the Gamma settings, it's called Monitor Asset manager of Entech Taiwan, google for 'moninfo'.
When refreshing the data with this tool it doesn't indicate that the Gamma setting has been changed when I changed it with the remote, it shows 2.5 all the time.
Maybe this has to do with the potmeter in the box being turned full clockwise or anti clockwise ....
André
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bbgh35
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Thanks speedyandre for contributing to this thread, your description about this problem is excellent and describes exactly what is occurring with my HTPC too. We are both using the 6600gt video card so which driver version are you using? I hope someone with a different brand/series videocard can tell us their experience. I will try the monitor software you mentioned.
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bbgh35
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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Moome, does pressing "display" refresh the EDID?
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moome
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| bbgh35 wrote: | | Moome, does pressing "display" refresh the EDID? |
no, display botton will only let you know the video source format is 444 or 422,
so what the brand name of the graphic card, i think we need one for debug!
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bbgh35
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The graphic card is Nvidia GeForce 6600GT using driver 84.21 running on Windows XP, 3.0ghz- P4 CPU.
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moome
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| bbgh35 wrote: | | The graphic card is Nvidia GeForce 6600GT using driver 84.21 running on Windows XP, 3.0ghz- P4 CPU. |
thanks for inofrmation,
i have a solution for this, i can ship you the updated chip for test,
you can contact me at moome@seed.net.tw
thanks
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moome
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| bbgh35 wrote: | | The graphic card is Nvidia GeForce 6600GT using driver 84.21 running on Windows XP, 3.0ghz- P4 CPU. |
by the way, can you provide us brand name and model number of vide card?
Nvidia 6600GT is chip name!
thanks
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bbgh35
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Videocard brand is XFX GeForce 6600GT 128MB DDR3 DUAL DVI Version G.2 Made in 02/06.
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bbgh35
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Update; I am waiting for repair parts that Moome shipped last weekend, he has told me there a fix for my original problem of a greenish screen with DVI sources (colorspace problem) plus the EE ringing problem and the slow, unreliable remote. A replacement chip was mentioned by Moome but he did not elaborate as to which one. SMD soldering is no problem for me, so as soon as I receive the parts I will report the results here.
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garyfritz
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Interesting. I had the green problem with DVI too, but it fixed itself. Just went away and hasn't been a problem since. ??
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bbgh35
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I installed all the parts Moome sent me and it works perfectly now! No EE ringing, No DVI green screen and remote response is much improved.
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speedyandre
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I only exchanged the 6 smd diodes, the big chip and I've mounted the heatsink.
All works fine now, I did post a picture in the EE topic.
My GF6600GT (agp) is also XFX, 128MB and driver is 9.1.3.1.
Even a cheap 3:1 hdmi switcher to extend the inputs of the Moome box works great!
Moome and the others did a great job to solve the problems and almost for free 
André
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