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[CIR Engineering]

[ysati]

[CIR Engineering]

That's what most people do yes. However, the Moome IFB can support 1080p 72Hz and there are some processors and HTPC's that can supply 1080p 72Hz through HDMI.

In my own theater I use a Lumagen Radiance XE and that only can support a clock up to 1080p 60Hz. So I run full 1080p at 60Hz and I run 817x1920 at 72Hz.

craigr

[ysati]

[cinema mad]

While the Lumagen radiance is A far better VP feature wise,
The DVDO VP50 & VP50pro have A higher bandwidth 165mhz limit,

As Craig points out, Most people running there CRT projectors with A stand alone VP run custom timings such as

1920x800/810/817 @ 48 Hz = 2:2 / 72Hz = 3:3 for film based blu-ray playback.

As most Bluray movies Aspect ratio is 2:35:1 = 1920x817) / 2:40:1 =1920x800 / 1:78:1 = 1920x1080..

Cheers...

[ysati]

For G90.1080p/50Hz is excellent.
1080p/60Hz, we reach the limit but it goes very well too.
The Faroudja DVP1080 is perfect for those frequencies, but the 24Hz or multiple, is not available ...
If I understood better preserve the native frequency of the source to the projector ...
Analysis:
In Europe HDTV broadcasts in 1080i/50Hz, perfect for the G90 and the Faroudja.
Blu-Ray are encoded in 24Hz, but also in 60Hz.
We can choose the frequency that best fits our video processing.
60Hz to me.
By replacing the Faroudja by Radiance X... or VP50..., I just added the possibility of 72Hz but 1920x817 only for Blu-Ray?
The result is really superior to the point of wanting to spend much money?
As has been said above, I can use for the Faroudja Video, HDTV etc. ...
The Movies, Blu-Ray or 60Hz PC Live with FULL HD V2, or even with the Faroudja.
What do you advise me if I am ready to spend more but to have my money.

Yves

Sorry, in french because my english is poor...

En Europe la TVHD émet en 1080i/50Hz, parfait pour le G90 et le Faroudja.
Les Blu-Ray sont encodés en 24Hz, mais aussi en 60Hz.
On peut donc choisir la meilleure fréquence qui correspond à notre traitement vidéo.
60Hz pour moi.
En remplaçant le Faroudja par un Radiance X... ou un VP50..., j'aurai seulement la possibilité supplémentaire du 72Hz mais en 1920x817 et seulement pour les Blu-Ray?
Le résultat est-il vraiment supérieur, au point de vouloir dépenser beaucoup d'argent?
Comme cela a été dit plus haut, je peux utiliser le Faroudja pour la Vidéo, HDTV etc...
Les Films, Blu-Ray ou PC en 60Hz en direct avec le FULL HD V2, ou même avec le Faroudja.
Que me conseillez-vous, si je suis prêt à dépenser plus, mais pour en avoir pour mon argent.

Yves

[KPV]

I own a Sony VPH-D50HT MkII. It has the IFB slot, however, the IFB slot is occupied by a duplicate set of RGBHV BNC inputs entitled Input B.

I have a few questions.....

1. I assume I can remove the card in the IFB slot that has the duplicate set of RGBHV inputs on it and replace it with the Moome IFB-FullHD v2 HDMI 1.3 card. Is this correct?
   
2. If that can be done, will I achieve 1080P resolution or just 1080i resolution?
   
3. Is the Moome card all that I need to convert this projector to its highest possible resolution?
   
4. My interest is to connect a Blu-Ray player to the projector. Is this the best solution?

Thanks in advance for your answers!
Ken

[moome]

[KPV]

Moome,
Thanks for your reply. My projector is not D50HTU. It is the D50HT Mark II. And I am in the U.S. I have seen references to HTU before, but my model number definitely doesn't have a "U" in it. Does that change anything? I looked at the IFB slot and it looks like the existing card (With the duplicate set of RGBHV BNC inputs) can very easily be pulled out. So, all of that said, your advice is to get the EXT-FULLHD V2 card??
Also, is this the better solution as compared to putting an HDFury Green on the cable and inputting through the existing 5 RGBHV BNC inputs??
Please get back to me.
Thanks,
Ken

[moome]

dear ken:
can you provide your card photo? does this card connect to D50 by wire or DIN connector?
if DIN connector, the best solution for you is IFB-FULLHD V2. if not, you can go EXT-FULLHD V2
both are our newest product~
thanks

[KPV]

Moome,
Here are pictures of the back of my projector and the Blu-Ray and D50 menu choices I made during setup.....

My D50HT MkII back panel has two sets of RGBHV BNC(5) inputs. You can see the plug-in DIN Input B card. I have connected the Component Video output from the Sony Blu-Ray player to the projector as shown below:



Following the advice from an old thread on the AV Science forum, where Curt Palme commented...
(http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=894629 ...Please read comment numbers 5, 6 and 10), I went into the D50's menu and changed Input B to HDTV-YPbPr:



I then went into the Sony Blu-Ray player's menu and chose Component Video as follows:



Then I chose 1080i from the menu:



And finally, confirmed the choices:




The picture is good, but not drop dead gorgeous as I recall it being when I piped HDNET from my DirecTV's VGA output into the D50's RGBHV (5) BNC inputs.

So...
If I am already displaying 1080i, what will the card do for me???

Thanks in advance!
Ken

[cinema mad]

The Moome internal card will fit into that "B" slot,
However 720p or 1080i is prob the max res for D50..

Ether way the new IFB V2 will make A huge differance in picture quality..

Cheers...

[KPV]

Cinema Mad,
Thanks for your reply. But, since I am supposedly already displaying at 1080i (please read above and view photos), and since the D50HT MkII's max res is 1080i, what will a Moome card do for me?
Thanks,
Ken

[cinema mad]

By pairing the Latest IFB-V2 with your D50 MkII, I blieve that you will obtain A noticeable picture quality improvement in all areas regardless as to what resolution you run be it 720p 1080i..

Cheers..

[CIR Engineering]

[mp20748]

The component Transcoder inside the D50 is not at todays HDTV colorspace standards, so you could have a number of issues with the image not being what it should be based on what's in the source.

The built in transcoders in all of the CRT projectors are not at modern HDTV standards. They were designed based on a standard that was later abandoned.

Your colors would not be accurate, nor would the pedestal for proper black and white reference performance.

[ysati]

Please, let me know:
With the IFB FULL HD V2,one the little screw use for gamma adjustment.
Step 1: turn the little screw to max, un-clockwise (right to left).
Note: total 25 turns.
But there is no stop? But we can turn more than 25 turns?
Was I correct or a failure?
Thanks
Yves

[cinema mad]

Turn the Course Gamma Adjustment Screw "Anti Clockwise" until you hear A little click,
This is best performed before you install the V2 Full HD card so you can hear the Click sound to tell you the Screw pot has reached its off position ..

Once the Card is installed Press button "C" on the remote to turn on Black boost function, (Not in v2 IFB-Full HD Manual)

Then Adjust the Gamma Screw 1-2 Full turns Clock wise,

Then while Displaying the Apropriate Test Pattern in window mode use the Fine Gamma adjustment Function on the Remote untill you
aquire the Gamma response you require..

Dont touch the Contrast Adjust Screw as this is Set at the Factory to allow for Video 16-235..

Hope this helps,
Cheers...

[ysati]

Thank you for this information

Yves