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Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-VPH-1020Q1-CRT-Projector_W0QQitemZ130173994047QQihZ003QQcategoryZ32862QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm considering this to see if I have it in me to set up and align a CRT projector...

Smallish start, but who's to say I can't have one in another room? Wink

What concerns me is his comment about the throw distance; i'm sure all it is would be adjusting the focus with the locknuts inside?

If i get this PJ i'll certainly be buying the PJ DVD that I've seen comments about floating around on the forum.

If I do indeed win..... what do/should I tell him about shipping? I saw Curt's thread on how he ships PJs and the neck boards/lenses do concern me. Also, by looking at the PJ stats page, it doesn't seem to have an IR remote, and a wired one isn't pictured. Do all projectors need a remote to do the initial alignment?

papalek · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1536 Location: Longs SC

In my opinion it is not worth the freight to have it shipped. If it was close and you could pick it up then it would be a good way to get your feet wet.

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

okay. i think i'll just wait to buy yours. check your pm.

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

I did purchase the projector after all. I noted on the specs page that is has manual convergence, etc.

http://www.arcpictures.info/auctionzed/07ST2142.0025f.JPG

The pic is from a VPH-1042Q

I assume mine has pots on the bottom right are the ones I'll have to play with to get the picture correct?

loribates · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 185 Location: KS

Yep, that's them... ain't no fun in the dark, overhead. Loved my little sony......

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

so you spent $114. with shipping on a 1021Q? Sad

they should make this thread a sticky and call it "ask questions here before buying on e-bay" Wink

JustGreg · Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3098 Location: Kenosha, WI

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

No, I spend about $114 total on it. Whenever I delve into something new like this I always start off with something on the lower end, now if i found a G90 at goodwill for $100 of course I would take it, but i want something that I wouldn't feel too bad about breaking or messing up.

As far as mounting it on the ceiling, what I think will wind up happening is anchroing it to a cart and using gaffer tape to mark off a clear square on the floor so it sits exactly in the same place every time, until I have the guts to start messing around with ceiling mounts.

As I haven't purchased the CRT setup DVD yet, what should my first steps be after unpacking it? i'm in the process of reading the manuals...

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

OH ME OH MY

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

She came yesterday via FedEx.

The seller packed it quite well. It wasn't a curt-style crating but it was very respectably packed with thick styrofoam on all sides (sorry no pics, i was in such a hurry), and shrink wrapped, with extra bubble wrap placed around the lenses.

I fired it up today against the wall with the deer head (see my other thread) and managed to get a rough crosshair alignment, it's a bit drifty but I got a preliminary picture, clear and bright, albeit defocused. In a dark room this little Sony packs a punch, you might say "lol its only 500 lumens" but I am happy as a clam with this projector!! Very Happy

It may have some small issues like needing to be realigned, geometry etc but I'll pop the top tomorrow (leaving for hte company christmas party in a few) and align the focus, and perform the factory alignment. First I'll shop for a screen, now I have a wall to cover.

It looks like it was never used! The tubes are bright and clear, no (visible) burns or wear. Of course when I pulll the lenses we might see a different storey, but right now I'm extremely pleased with my little Sony. Smile

Zebu Fellenz · Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2567

I believe that it is very rare to find any wear on a sony 10** set, I heard this is due to the tubes never being driven hard enough to cause wear.

Be sure that you NEVER try to feed this set a resolution above it's resolveing cabibilites as you will let all the magic smoke out.

Erik

derfla · Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 547 Location: eastern ohio

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

Hmm. I'm only planning on using it with the composite video in with the DVD player being the highest-resolution source I have, so I don't think I'll have any problems there Very Happy

In order to pop the top, it's the screws in the bottom, right? I didn't see any anywhere else.

Tinman · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject:

Now bolt a cheap set of color corrected NEC lenses on it, like the HD-144's. Damn nice improvement for a video only set.

Marc

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

I'll have to get a longass screwdriver, won't I. The bottom screws are kind of out of reach, and i'd have to have the PJ upside down because there are some transformers, etc underneath the lenses.

I took the cover off so I could get to the lens focus adjustments to get a rough idea of how much I'd have to correct the geometry, looks like a full alignment is in order. I focused it on the screen so I could see how the center looks with video, watched a brief clip of mcgyver and I can see the scan lines. It's even got instructions on how to do it, how precious. Smile

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/FujiFrontier/tv/instructions.jpg
Setup for dummies Smile

You know, it feels weird to actually see in front of me what I've seen so many times on this forum. Smile

Haha.

Oh - when adjusting the focus with the wingnuts, the travel back and forth felt stiff and gritty. How do I fix that?

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

Anyone have an idea how to mount this thing? it just has those 2 hook-style mounts under it.,

jkruger · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA

I used one of these to make an inexpensive mount for my first projector, a sony 1000q. It is a strap from home depot, I just bent it to fit the projector and nailed in a couple of 4x4's between the joists in the attic to hang it from. They usually have them hanging in a corner dislay on the lumber aisle. With this and some allthread and some nuts and washers I had it up in a couple hours. Under $15.00

MST37 37.5" 12-Gauge Strap, Model MST37, $4.93/Each

Looks like this:

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

JESUS H CHRIST

I knew alignment was going to be a total ****, but not as much trouble as I had yesterday.

K.

SO in all my faithful forum following i've drilled into my head that maximal rasters are what we need, covering most of the tube face. I peer down the green tube and adjust the V size (H size is maxed out) and that's where I made my fatal mistake. Green wasn't really maxed, but I resized it to be slightly more than about 95% of the tube face (no visible wear lines). So yeah, try and do the red, and the blue. Fine. I have them all the same SIZE............................

but the "squares" are not the same size (linearity) and convergence is sh*t all around. So I cut blue and focused on red and green. After about an hour I had them mostly on top of each other, except for the bottom right hand and middle of hte picture. I mean, twirling those pots left and right wouldn't make the damned lines line up. After about two hours I had most of the grid somewhat nice. Except for some slight registration errors on the top and bottom which are uncorrectable (pots are maxed out), it looked "acceptable." Then I turned blue on.... and did the same thing. After I'd formed a blister on my left thumb from fiddling with pots I had a watchable image. All of you could probably sh*t on it, but I think I did an "okay" job. 45 minutes into it I thought I was going to have to send the poor beastie out to Curt.

What would YOU do in my case, to get this thing aligned. Reset all pots to 50% and go from there? They don't have a mechanical detent in the middle.

I guess another question is, because GREEN is the reference, how do i know that the green values for the lineraity, skew, etc are within reach of the other 2 tubes to be corrected to?

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

BTW i had the grid crosshatch up, but that would have been too much work to post. I figured that if i could get the red and green to align on the simple crosshair, I could work on the corners from there. No dice. I just worked using the crosshatch.

And another BTW... all the troubles started when I tried to follow the instructions pasted to the top of hte projector... It's kind of hard to do it with the lid on, since I found it easier to cut the blue and concentrate on red/green.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:15 am Post subject:

Did you do the lens toe in first?

Fujifrontier · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 354 Location: San Antonio, Texas

ahm, ah... *ahem*... um, ahh...

*cringes*

What's that? I focussed the lenses using the nut that's closet to me. What's the second one, farther up for? Is that what you're talking about? I thought it was a secondary focus and adjusted it so the little dots were visible on the horizontal bars.