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wallace123456
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Answer to the orginal post: When I have spent a bunch of damn money on both formats!!!
Bastards!! I think their all in this sh*t together and sharing the money, laughing all the way to the bank...........
wallace
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draganm
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| wallace123456 wrote: | | Bastards!! I think their all in this sh*t together and sharing the money, laughing all the way to the bank..........wallace |
LOL, I have it on good authority it's the same guys who got us to buy 5 different copies of 5th Element 
Thanks for the link guys, I might have to give this LG Romm drive another look. I migth just need a new SATA capable motherboard, LG drive, and video card.
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jask
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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I really believe combo drives AND PLAYERS will be very accessible in 6-12 months but the manufacturers need to get through this Christmas season and sell all the gear they can.
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RVonse
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| Chuchuf wrote: | | stefuel wrote: | | Chuchuf wrote: | | larryk wrote: | | The PC combo drive is only 275.00 Now I have some selection to rent a Blockbuster and it's out to find 5th Element today. Now I have an A20 for sale. |
Just got one of these so I don't care who wins the format war.
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T-man, what brand and where did you get it? Thanks, |
The LG was just released for about $280 and that's the one I went with.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=906388
Have watched a few HD DVD movies on it and it works well. Blu Ray next.
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Isn't there a whole lot more to this than just $280 though? I thought you had to have a fast processor (meaning expensive) plus a special video card and other BS to make this work? Or can you just slap it into any average HTPC and expect to play movies?
$280 sounds too good to be true.
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stefuel
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That's a good question. Also, how do you know that your getting native source material and the video card or software isn't doing something to the image?
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WanMan
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That combo drive seems sweet, but I am not sure where I could get one. And considering the current rig I have has HDMI output, I would think this would be a great solution with the HDfury. Oh no, I am off to that devil site to find out. Looks like I'll be returning the second HD DVD player that I paid a premium for.
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nomadII
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2 Formats will exist as long as Sony owns content.
It is really just that simple.
I just bought an HD-DVD player for $100.00
Cost of the media is much more oppressive than the cost of the Hardware.
The demise of the formats will only come about from streaming content delivery, not from one beating out the other.
How anyone allows themselves to become upset over the "format wars" is beyond me.
Content Protection is your enemy, not formats!!!!
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KennyG
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| nomadII wrote: | 2 Formats will exist as long as Sony owns content.
It is really just that simple.
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And I think this is why HD-DVD can never win the war. Sony will never allow any of it's titles onto HD-DVD.
I have a Samsung BDP-1200 blu ray player and love it!!!
It's Reon processor does a better job of upconverting my SD disc than the Lumagen Pro/Denon 3910 with SDI mod did...and at about 1/3 the price.
HOWEVER I am about to sell the BDP-1200 and buy the BDP-5000 combo player that was supposed to ship Nov 1st. It still uses Reon processing, and at $799 it's not a bad deal. (that is at Amazon)
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papalek
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="KennyG"] | nomadII wrote: | 2 Formats will exist as long as Sony owns content.
It is really just that simple.
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And I think this is why HD-DVD can never win the war. Sony will never allow any of it's titles onto HD-DVD.
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I thought that someone posted that sony DID release some titles on HD-DVD in europe.
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Tom.W
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jask
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sony is only one studio..... and as long as there is dvd the exclusive content idea is a non issue for 90% of consumers.
The deciding factor is going to be consumers, if they all buy low priced HD-DVD this holiday then the studios will want to release in a format that people will buy,early sales drive profits. The Beta vs VHS race was decided by getting the gear into peoples homes, and a lot of the guys who argued the technical superiority of Beta soon found they had a very high quality paperweight.
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AnalogRocks
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| jask wrote: | snipped.....
The Beta vs VHS race was decided by getting the gear into peoples homes, and a lot of the guys who argued the technical superiority of Beta soon found they had a very high quality paperweight. |
0r 7 or 8 of them. 
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nomadII
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Jask is correct of course. Sony is only one studio.
Their competitors in this space will not be going away anytime soon. They do not care if end users find this to be inconvenient. I for one do not view competition as a bad thing for the consumer here.
I avoid Sony gear like the plague (1292 yokes excluded), but will eventually fold & add a Blu-Ray player.
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GREG1292
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greg_mitch
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| Brian Hampton wrote: |
have more capacity (50GB>30GB), have higher bandwidth, have more companies making players, and have more studios supporting them including Fox (Star Wars) and Disney (Pixar) so it's hard to recommend a HD DVD player but since they can be had for next to nothing and people can rent until the storm is over,.. it's not so hard to recommed after all.
-Brian |
Not to get into a little rant here but all of your advantages can easily be countered.
Capacity isn't required, bandwidth isn't required (and I am not talking about quality that is 'good enough', they are visually identical), total number of movies available is damn near even, Universal and Paramount (dreamworks) are exclusive so it is hard for me to recommend blu-ray. Plus they cost about $200 more.
I of course agree that renting is the way to go...don't sink any money into a massive 1000 disc collection like some crazy people!
You purchased into blu-ray like you stated and have some sort of feeling that you want them to win, and that is fine but it shouldn't be hidden behind the fact that the other format is perceivably inferior.
Have you looked at the thread about specs vs. reality over at A*S? I happen to agree.
Are these fair points?
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nomadII
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Unless Sony goes out of business there is no end.
Get used to the 2 formats.
Are there really people out there that pay $65.00 per month for Cable / Satellite service but find it impossible to buy hardware to support these 2 formats?
Personally, the $30.00 a disc is the biggest deterrent I see.
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