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ecrabb
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Tom.W wrote: | | I got a PM from Arnold a few weeks ago and he said he would post an update when work on the HT was underway. |
Very cool. Can't wait to see how things are shaping up. <drool>
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Tom.W
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Any news Arnold ?
Was wondering what design both you and Theo Kalomirakis came up with and also about the seamless screen...
Were you able to find one that big ?
Tom
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Mark_A_W
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Frickin hell - how much is enough for one person?
Now, will someone please expand on the comment about "Conneticut's most energy efficient house"? BEFORE I REALLY GO BALLISTIC.
Where are the solar panels? The passive heating/cooling measures, the minimisation of concrete use.
I'm sure the owner can afford them - show us how it's an energy efficient frickin mansion. (And yes, my solar panels should be installed by Christmas, they are paid for, I just have to wait till they get around to my house).
Explain to me how Mr Chase is not using about 5000x his fair share of the world's resources and energy.
I'm sorry if I've missed a few things - the linked articles don't work, and most pictures need individual downloading - so tell me why I shouldn't be vomiting in disgust.
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Tom.W
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Sorry Mark I disagree.... This is Arnold"s dream home and theater. Do you really think Arnold is building an HT with 103 seats for just himself and family ?
Arnold will be hosting charity and community events there also.
I suppose It's OK to build a 100 story high rise for profit but not OK to build your own dream home and theater.
Even if only for the shear joy of being able to do so...
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Mark_A_W
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Dream home and theatre??
It's as big as 100 homes.
I don't care if you disagree, it's totally immoral.
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Tom.W
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Arnold shares the same passion as all of us here for the BEST HT but just on a bit grander scale. I cannot fault him for that nor Art or Gino...
Just my opinion. 
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Don't try to reason with Mark, Tom. He's WAY beyond that.
Tell me Mark, just what is a "fair share", oh arbiter of earth's resources? Just how many square feet is fair? Is 2,000 square feet OK, but 5,000 not OK? 10,000 is disgusting and 20,000 outright immoral? Why is it up to you and your ilk to decide what's an immoral number of square feet?
Wait. You know what? Never mind. I don't even want to read your crap. I'm so sick and tired of reading your green whack-job zealot posts, it makes ME want to vomit in disgust. If you don't want to read about Arnold's awesome and amazing project, then have some respect and spare us all your eco pap and go somewhere else. Please.
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mike calcott
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Don't worry about it Steve, its typical of the "tall poppy syndrome" that exists in Australia. When someone achieves success, or wealth though their own efforts, the "have nots" are only too quick to jump in and critisise.
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kal
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | | If you don't want to read about Arnold's awesome and amazing project, then have some respect and spare us all your eco pap and go somewhere else. Please. |
This is after all a forum dedicated to home theaters. Home theaters are a 100% luxury item and consume a lot of power.
Sort of like going into a 4x4 forum and complaining that people are all using too much gas. It's just too troll-like.
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Spanky Ham
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Mark,
I am going to have to agree with the others here. I understand what you are saying, but what is fair share. Plus, Arnold just made the comment about energy efficient in reference to the article. He probably hasn't elaborated, because most here are probably more interested in the theater. I would like to hear how his house is energy efficient though.
I think it is great that you are getting solar panels, but unfortunately it still isn't a good economic alternative just yet. So far the only feasible way to do it seems to be with incentives.
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achase
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | Frickin hell - how much is enough for one person?
Now, will someone please expand on the comment about "Conneticut's most energy efficient house"? BEFORE I REALLY GO BALLISTIC.
Where are the solar panels? The passive heating/cooling measures, the minimisation of concrete use.
I'm sure the owner can afford them - show us how it's an energy efficient frickin mansion. (And yes, my solar panels should be installed by Christmas, they are paid for, I just have to wait till they get around to my house).
Explain to me how Mr Chase is not using about 5000x his fair share of the world's resources and energy.
I'm sorry if I've missed a few things - the linked articles don't work, and most pictures need individual downloading - so tell me why I shouldn't be vomiting in disgust. |
Normally I do not respond to people that shoot off their mouth BEFORE knowing the facts, but in this case I'll make an exception...
The first question I would ask this person is, "are YOU carbon neutral, to say nothing of carbon NEGATIVE as I am this year by planting 300+ trees, with special emphasis on protecting and propagating native plants such as Mountain Laurel? Have you substituted wildflower mix instead of of a grass lawn to eliminate the carbon load necessary to maintain it (to say nothing of the ancillary benefit in reviving the bee situation), as I have? Have you installed insulation to over R-58 levels as I have, as well as WINDOWS that provide a minimum of R-3 insulation? Do you utilize a large scale living "green" roof as I have? Did you purposely orient your home on a North-South axis to maximize solar heating? Have you installed energy minimization equipment on ALL heating and cooling devices in you home to shut off individual rooms when unoccupied? Have you installed energy recovery units to extract 85% of heat or air conditioning from exhausted air? Are you utilizing geothermal heating and cooling? Have you placed the majority of your home underground and designed the HVAC system to pull the 56 degree air from the underground levels to the above ground levels to let Mother Earth do the majority of heating and cooling??? (By the way, WHY would one want to MINIMIZE the use of underground concrete if it is used to create an earth-mass cooling system? Yes, there is energy used to create the concrete, but it is a one-time draw which then provides a CONTINUOUS payback)??? Beyond that, do YOU water your lawn areas and plants with city or well water, or from ponds as I have done so NO underground aquifer is depleted?
Almost all the processed materials I used originated on-site, primarily to create the underground areas below ground, thus eliminating any carbon emissions to transport it. Did you also do this, or did you truck your building materials in from far away? Did you also search out building projects within a few miles to dispose of surplus processed materials so those projects did not have to truck materials in from distant areas as well? Have you sought to return many acres of land to agriculture as I have done?
Finally, as you should obviously know, the solar panels do not get installed until the very end when the roof is completed. When that happens (in a few months), there will be more than 16 kilowatts of PV in grid-tied operation.
Obviously, to accomplish the kind of energy responsibility I have outlined above takes considerable resources. I am not suggesting that everyone can do this. I would, however, be most interested in finding out what modest steps YOU have taken at your house to lessen YOUR "fair share of the world's resources and energy"?
Arnold
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AnalogRocks
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| achase wrote: | | Mark_A_W wrote: | Frickin hell - how much is enough for one person?
Now, will someone please expand on the comment about "Conneticut's most energy efficient house"? BEFORE I REALLY GO BALLISTIC.
Where are the solar panels? The passive heating/cooling measures, the minimisation of concrete use.
I'm sure the owner can afford them - show us how it's an energy efficient frickin mansion. (And yes, my solar panels should be installed by Christmas, they are paid for, I just have to wait till they get around to my house).
Explain to me how Mr Chase is not using about 5000x his fair share of the world's resources and energy.
I'm sorry if I've missed a few things - the linked articles don't work, and most pictures need individual downloading - so tell me why I shouldn't be vomiting in disgust. |
Normally I do not respond to people that shoot off their mouth BEFORE knowing the facts, but in this case I'll make an exception...
The first question I would ask this person is, "are YOU carbon neutral, to say nothing of carbon POSITIVE as I am this year by planting 300+ trees, with special emphasis on protecting and propagating native plants such as Mountain Laurel? Have you substituted wildflower mix instead of of a grass lawn to eliminate the carbon load necessary to maintain it (to say nothing of the ancillary benefit in reviving the bee situation), as I have? Have you installed insulation to over R-58 levels as I have, as well as WINDOWS that provide a minimum of R-3 insulation? Do you utilize a large scale living "green" roof as I have? Did you purposely orient your home on a North-South axis to maximize solar heating? Have you installed energy minimization equipment on ALL heating and cooling devices in you home to shut off individual rooms when unoccupied? Have you installed energy recovery units to extract 85% of heat or air conditioning from exhausted air? Are you utilizing geothermal heating and cooling? Have you placed the majority of your home underground and designed the HVAC system to pull the 56 degree air from the underground levels to the above ground levels to let Mother Earth do the majority of heating and cooling??? (By the way, WHY would one want to MINIMIZE the use of underground concrete if it is used to create an earth-mass cooling system? Yes, there is energy used to create the concrete, but it is a one-time draw which then provides a CONTINUOUS payback)??? Beyond that, do YOU water your lawn areas and plants with city or well water, or from ponds as I have done so NO underground aquifer is depleted?
Almost all the processed materials I used originated on-site, primarily to create the underground areas below ground, thus eliminating any carbon emissions to transport it. Did you also do this, or did you truck your building materials in from far away? Did you also search out building projects within a few miles to dispose of surplus processed materials so those projects did not have to truck materials in from distant areas as well? Have you sought to return many acres of land to agriculture as I have done?
Finally, as you should obviously know, the solar panels do not get installed until the very end when the roof is completed. When that happens (in a few months), there will be more than 16 kilowatts of PV in grid-tied operation.
Obviously, to accomplish the kind of energy responsibility I have outlined above takes considerable resources. I am not suggesting that everyone can do this. I would, however, be most interested in finding out what modest steps YOU have taken at your house to lessen YOUR "fair share of the world's resources and energy"?
Arnold |
Way to go Arnold!
Mark? Have you removed both feet, legs and most of your lower torso from your mouth or are you just to bussy to talk because you are finishing your meal of crow? 
Arnold please don't let Mark put you off the rest of us on this forum. He has a terible foot in mouth disease.
I love the geothermal heating/cooling. It's a great way to do things. Very well designed house. Lot's of careful thought went into it. Bravo!
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Tom.W
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Nice to hear from you Arnold ! Now lets concentrate on the HT... Were you able to find that seamless screen ?
Looking forward to the photos ! 
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I have to say... I can't WAIT to see more photos. I looked at the last set of construction images like some guys look at Ferraris or supermodels.
I hope the project is going well Arnold and thanks for the update.
Cheers,
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lostmandan
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How many square feet of solar panel would be needed to produce that amount of energy? I would be intrigued to see the equipment used to manage the solar array, tie to grid, etc. It must be pretty heafty!
I look forward to a day where all of the geo-thermal, solar, wind, and other alternative energy sources are easily affordable.
Very cool project, and I also can't wait to see more photos of your project coming to fruition.
Cheers,
Dan
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kal
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jask
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Congratulations Arnold,your home sounds inspiring.
I am sure that it takes a lot of resources and commitment to do what you are doing.I also would like to hear more about the systems you have integrated into your home. The PV system sounds very impressive, how did you decide to develop such a large system? I have read that costing on these systems can vary a huge amount based on location and utilities minimum requirements for tie in,and would enjoy hearing more information. If you have links to any articles on your home or similar systems I would be interested to learn more.
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Ridebreck
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Just curious Arnold - are you shooting for this project to be LEED certified? I'm not familiar with LEED for residences, but from what you just described, you would easily hit gold on a commercial scale and probably be getting very close to platinum. Kudos to you, sir. I'm looking forward to seeing additional photos.
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| achase wrote: | | Obviously, to accomplish the kind of energy responsibility I have outlined above takes considerable resources. I am not suggesting that everyone can do this. |
But it is VERY MUCH to your credit that you DID. Very few people, even with resources like yours, would go to the trouble you did. Major kudos, Arnold. Well done.
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| ecrabb wrote: | Don't try to reason with Mark, Tom. He's WAY beyond that.
Tell me Mark, just what is a "fair share", oh arbiter of earth's resources? |
Duh - it's obvious: Whatever share that he happens to have at any given moment!
And to Arnold: Way to go for smacking down Mark on this. Picking fights with forum regulars whenever someone mentions a shred of Prohibited Luxury is bad enough, but jumping snarling onto the back of a guy who's just shown up is in utterly poor taste. And, as you've seen, Mark definitely doesn't speak for the forum on this.
As far as what he does to save the earth, I remember him saying something about only watching movies twice a month. Way to take one for the team, buddy!
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