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stefuel
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Location: Green Harbor MA USA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: New Directv HD channels ??? |
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I just noticed a announcement on dtv that new HD programming is on the way. It seems though that if you wish to receieve it, you must replace your old HD dish and receiver. I now have a Sony SAT-HD200 and a 3 LNB dish. I wish there was a work-around for this but I don't think so. Now us Sony users who have HD-15 outputs will be forced to buy aftermarket adapters along with new equipment. 
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emdawgz1
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DirecTV's HD Channel list
A&E (Sept.)
Altitude (RSN; Dish launching in HD this fall)
Animal Planet (Sept.)
Big Ten Network *
Bravo *
Cartoon Network *
Chiller
CNBC
CNN *
Comcast SportsNet Chicago HD
Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD
Discovery Channel (Sept.)
Discovery HD Theater (channel 76)
ESPN HD (channel 73)
ESPN2 HD (channel 72)
Food Network *
FSN Arizona
FSN Bay Area
FSN Detroit
FSN Florida
FSN New England
FSN North
FSN Northwest
FSN Ohio
FSN Prime Ticket
FSN Rocky Mountain
FSN South
FSN Southwest
FSN West
FX *
HBO HD (channel 70)
HDNet (channel 79)
HDNet Movies (channel 78)
HGTV *
MTV *
NGC HD (channel 98 - sneak peek only)
New England Sports Network HD (channel 623)
NFL Network *
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 1
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 2
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 3
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 4
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 5
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 6
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 7
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 8
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 9
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 10
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 11
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 12
NFL Sunday Ticket – game 13
Pay-Per-View HD (channel 99)
SCI FI Channel *
Showtime HD (channel 71)
Showtime West *
Speed *
SportsNet New York HD (channel 625)
SportsSouth (RSN; now in HD on Dish)
Starz East coast feed (Sept.)
Starz West coast feed (Sept.)
Starz Comedy (Sept.)
Starz Edge (Sept.)
Starz Kids & Family (Sept.)
Sun Sports (RSN now in HD on Dish)
TBS *
The 101 (part-time HD)
The History Channel (Sept.)
The Movie Channel *
The Science Channel (Sept.)
The Tennis Channel *
The Weather Channel (Sept.) *
TLC (Sept.)
TNT HD (channel 75)
Universal HD (channel 74)
USA Network *
Versus *
YES HD (channel 622)
+ 2 TBA Discovery-owned networks
HD channels launching in 2008:
ABC Family
Disney Channel
ESPNEWS HD
Toon Disney
* Announced
http://www.cable360.net/competition/23638.html
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, you need a new dish to catch the new satellite and a new receiver to decode the MPEG-4 the new HD channels are encoded in.
I like my hacked HD Tivo and my big GainMaster dish (no rain fade, here!) too much to switch for the time being... especially since every &&$*$*%^ time you make a change to your account, you get to extend the ball-and-chain contract another two years. Even adding a used receiver to your account triggers the change. I'm NOT happy with DirecTV these days, but I don't have any alternatives that are any better.
Eventually, I'll get annoyed that there's a bunch more HD programming I could be watching for the same price and I'll upgrade. For now, I'll sit tight.
SC
EDIT - I rarely have time to watch what I have now - I guess that's why I'm not more excited to get even more programming.
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ecrabb
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I also don't like the new part of DTV's new Terms of Service whereby all subscribed equipment becomes the property of DTV, and must be returned when you cancel service. What a bunch of sh*t that is. DirecTV is just like the sh*tty cable companies, now. They're all the same, the bastards. I wish I had somewhere else to go... but I don't.
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emdawgz1
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| ecrabb wrote: | I also don't like the new part of DTV's new Terms of Service whereby all subscribed equipment becomes the property of DTV, and must be returned when you cancel service. What a bunch of sh*t that is. DirecTV is just like the sh*tty cable companies, now. They're all the same, the bastards. I wish I had somewhere else to go... but I don't.
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So if you buy an hd box and subscribe to D* then your box becomes their box?????
F-dat! 
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BradTheAggie
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What about Big Dish? Does anyone know how the C-Band market is nowadays (I believe that is what it is...)
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| BradTheAggie wrote: | | What about Big Dish? Does anyone know how the C-Band market is nowadays (I believe that is what it is...) |
Cband is almost dead...sad
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ecrabb
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| emdawgz1 wrote: | So if you buy an hd box and subscribe to D* then your box becomes their box?????
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Exactly. No matter what box you buy or where - ebay, garage sale, friend gives it to you, whatever... if they authorize the receiver, they own it. Bunch of sh*t, huh?
I think if you're an older customer like I am, you can get them to bend and authorize it without "converting" it, but it's still bull****.
I sure wish I had a decent alternative and I could tell them to stick it in their ass.
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erikjohn
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| ecrabb wrote: | I also don't like the new part of DTV's new Terms of Service whereby all subscribed equipment becomes the property of DTV, and must be returned when you cancel service. What a bunch of sh*t that is. DirecTV is just like the sh*tty cable companies, now. They're all the same, the bastards. I wish I had somewhere else to go... but I don't.
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They should at least offer tho rent which E* just started doing with their DVR's. The nice thing about that is that now with equipment being upgraded every 1-2 years and the DVR's that have so many problems you just swap it out. I am paying $5 a month for the new 622 MPEG4 reciever from E*. It would take 5 years at that price to buy the 921 that I have had for 2 years which now is incompatible with MPEG4 and glitches all the time anyway.
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garyfritz
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EJ, did you have to pay anything up front for the 622? I'm in a chat with a Dish rep now (god it's slow), and they say you have to pay $150 up front PLUS a $6/mo lease fee. That makes it a bit more painful to upgrade frequently. Hopefully I wouldn't have to. At least they're currently offering a $100 credit so it really only costs you $50 + $6/mo. Supposedly it actually costs $550 so $50 + $6/mo would take 7 years. 
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Dave Lister
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Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Just an idea to get around the 'we now own your equipment' clause.
Record your equipment serial number and when you stop using DirectTV refuse to hand it over, if they insist then hand it over but report it as stolen and include your equipment serial number in the report, then call in an anonymous report that DirectTV have stolen equipment, they get raided, your equipment is found, the serial number is linked to your stolen equipment report and your equipment is returned to you.
To get out of the cost of upgrading equipment they are supplying, just before upgrade time connect a flyback transfromer (30kv) to the equipment and then call them and say it is not working, they have to supply new equipment at no cost to you as it is their equipment so they are responsible for maintaining it.
Sneaky but then so is their 'we now own your equipment' clause.  No, I'm not seriously suggesting you do this. 
Here in Australia the service provider is responsible for maintaining equipment that they supply, but not for equipment that the customer supplies.
I used to have Foxtel and my remote started playing up so I called them and they sent out a replacement for free (no I didn't use a flyback transformer on it) as they are required to.
Someone I knew at the time had the same problem but Foxtel told them they had to pay for their remote which they did, I told them afterward that they could have got it for free which they doubted until I had the problem above and got mine replaced for free.
Even if DirectTV (is DirectTV the same as SelectTV?) have the 'we now own your equipment' clause here in Australia there is a law which preceeds and overrides it called Consumer Law dated 1974 which sets out a customers rights for any product or service sold or provided in Australia and specifically says that no contract can override this.
I will never get pay TV again, mostly because of cost but also because they repeat everything over and over and over and over......
I have been looking into free satellite TV, just the unscrambled channels, no idea if it is possible or easy to get the scrambled ones for free but you know the obvious issue with getting scrambled channels (pay TV) free.
I am looking into setting up a 3 metre C band dish as most of the free channels are on that here in Australia.
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